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Unapodogetic
Episode 67 | "In Love with A.I."
This episode kicks off with a rundown of the shows we're watching, including my deep dive into the Love Island USA relationships (4:10). We then explore the distinct nature of reality TV shows like Love is Blind (15:50). Things take a wild turn with the story of a man who fell in love and even proposed to a custom AI chatbot, despite having a girlfriend and child (18:08), sparking a discussion about the future of cyborgs and cybernetic implants. We also cover the Elon Musk and Donald Trump feud (36:22), Lil Wayne and Drake still rapping about the same old things in 2025 (42:15), and why Sabrina Carpenter is the "white Sexyy Red" (52:45). Later, we discuss the need to support non-blockbuster films, exemplified by a new Harold & Kumar movie (53:44), leading to a broader conversation about authentic characters and storytelling versus pandering to audiences. Finally, we break down the NBA Finals and Kevin Durant's potential departure (1:10:42), UFC's Kamaru Usman looking elite, the LA Dodgers' lack of supporting the fan base during these hard times (1:18:53), and the "Minnesota Assassin" (1:40:06), plus much more!
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SPEAKER_02:Unapologetic episode 67? 67, I think. 67, baby. Got some visuals up today. How you doing today, man? I know, man. Doing good, man. I'm excited for the new setup, bro. I'm just getting here, man. Yeah, man. I'm fucking with it, bro. I'm excited to get some feedback from the fans, bro. Yeah, bro. You know what I mean? The run. The OGs, you know, the originators. Yeah. You know, we used to be the one and only, but, you know, some biting ass niggas out there. One of two now. One of two on the podcast. It's all good, though, man. We're here, man. That's fine, man. Thank you all for tuning in. You guys be at work, school, shit. Summer, maybe not school, but... Work at home, clean the house. Thank y'all for tuning in and listening. Thank y'all for watching. Like, subscribe, comment. Hey, whatever app y'all using, hey, comment on the pod, bro, or give us a rating. I mean, give us on Spotify, Apple, give us a rating. Shit, how you feeling today, bro? Feeling good, man. I'm ready to just get into it, bro. I'm going to play a song right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll play a song for, you know, audio listeners. Yeah. All right, man. Let's get it.
UNKNOWN:All right. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02:It was jamming. It was... Don't Stop the Music by Jaw Funk. Nah, that shit was jamming, bro. Yeah, nah, he was rocking with that. Nah, that was jamming. I was like, damn, what is this? I never heard that in my life. Right? That shit was smooth. Yo. I love it, man. That's a new artist, too, bro. That's like a newer, a new artist. It's not an old song or anything. Okay. That's some good music out there, bro. I know. I know we all talk about hip-hop's bad, but there's other music than hip-hop out there, bro. Yeah, man. I'm fucking with it, bro. I like that. What are we getting into first? Bro. You know what we're going to talk
SPEAKER_05:about, bro.
SPEAKER_02:What shows you been watching, bro? Bro, I can't lie, bro. Love Island got me, dude. Love Island got me, bro. What? I've been on Love Island. Bro, I can't lie. I've been on Love Island, bro. My girl, you know, she was like, I'm going to watch Love Island. I was like, who wants to watch Love Island? You know the typical man response at first? Yep. And then she put it on and I'm invested. And now I'm like, bro, I want to huddle off the island. And now I'm like, leave free Jeremiah. And now I'm like, now I'm defending people I don't know. And now I'm invested. And I just feel sick because I'm like, I always talk about how much I don't like reality TV and they always get me. Bro, the reality TV rocks, bro. I don't even lie to myself, bro. I love it. I love all things reality TV, bro. Are you still watching some shows? That shit's good, bro. Not right now, bro. I'm kind of just like in between shows right now. Okay. I might peep some of Love Island, because this is USA, right? Yeah. Yeah, I usually watch Love Island UK or, like, Australia. Oh, really? For the most part, yeah. I don't really watch, like, the USA one. The USA one's a little raunchier than, like, the other countries, bro. Okay, I didn't know that. Yeah, niggas in America, they real quick to, hey, we're kissing, we're hooking up, bro. That's what I kind of thought. Like, this season has been kind of quick and, like, grandma invested. Like, one of the girls, like, she gave the cookie up kind of early. Yeah. Nah, she get a cookie up kind of early, bro. But then she got a daughter at home. So America's kind of mad at her. Yeah. Yeah, America's kind of like, you get a cookie up early, blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, why am I invested in this motherfucker's life? So I'm like, why am I tuning in? Like, God damn it. Bro, I think it's just something about reality TV, bro. Knowing it's a real person, bro. And knowing it's like what you're doing right now, it has real consequences back home. Like you said, bro, your daughter's watching. Your family's watching you, right? And you're giving up the cookie on TV. Bro, stop. For a nigga you're not even going to be with. Bro, I met him seven days ago. Because you know what I also think too, bruh? Even worse is your future husband's going to see that. Your future wife's going to see that, bruh. And you was acting all fool. Kissed 10 niggas on one island. Nah, I'll be thinking about that. I'm like, honestly, because I try not to judge people because I'm like, it is a part of the show, right? So I try not to judge people. Like, you know, obviously it's part of the show. But sometimes I'm like, damn, girl, it's day six. You don't have to give them the cookie. You could have just kept kissing them. But anyway, I'm invested. Love Island got me. I can't lie. You know what I mean? Bro, honestly, there's nothing wrong with reality TV, bro. It got me. I'm still not watching the Kardashians, but I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. But honestly, once I started putting like my, you know, my manliness to the side, bro, I'm feeling like I'm too good to watch certain shows, bro. I started enjoying a lot more TV. No, exactly. That's how I'm feeling. Yeah. I saw myself watching more quote unquote, like girly show. Yeah. Like a few years ago, I think we watched like bachelor and And that shit was kind of smooth. Deadass, bro. My girl got me watching Bachelor and Bachelorette, bro. I can't lie. Even Golden Bachelor and shit, bro. She got me watching all that. I think we watched Bachelor in Paradise. And I was like, bro, this is... I was like, niggas on an island? Right? Bro, and I was like, nah, they got me. They got me invested. I'm all like, oh no, is Johnny gonna pick her? Yeah. I'm like, why do I care? It's just good TV, bro. It is good TV. I think sometimes I like how like... We're making people who like... Everyday workers are famous sometimes. I think that's what I enjoy about it. These are just everyday people. No, that's a good point. Yeah, and it feels, it's a lighter investment. Just watching everyday people. You know what I mean? You don't get like too much of the same type of like fandom or there's no like stands for reality TV for the most part. Like, you know, cause I feel like you watch other types of shows and stuff like that. And then you get on the internet and you kind of want to hear like the people's opinion. You run into a lot of, uh, like bias, you know what I mean? Cause you run into a bunch of just stands and just people who can't give it to you straight about die hard. Yup. And it's like, I can't, I can't argue with you about this cause you serious. yeah but and then honestly too i feel like reality tv it's that's my favorite type of like escapism type of tv that's okay that's fair you know i'm i'm less of If I want to escape and kind of just forget about things, reality TV is my go-to. That's your go-to? Yeah. I'm less about shows with the actual plot and everything. I just want to see some dumb people do some dumb shit and just, damn, these people are crazy. I think that's where I'm at. Yeah? I think when I was younger, I think it used to be kind of like murder mysteries. I used to enjoy throwing on those shows and trying to- I can't do it, bro. No, because sometimes it's like you try to solve the shit while you're watching it You know what I mean? And I think that's what I kind of enjoy. But then once I realized, I'm like, oh shit, this, this is not solvable. Yeah. And that type of stuff's bad for us. sorry y'all my phone's connected to the bluetooth that's funny um yeah bro that that uh those types of like murder mystery shows bro this shit's bad for us it is bro you know like bro this is real people real people sometimes yeah most of the time the real people i'm like man now i'm over here investigating some uh some missing person in ohio yeah so i'm like now sometimes that shit could be too much so i think it like it makes the world seem a lot more dangerous than it really is too that's what those shoes that's what those shows do do a lot of the time, bro. That is true. I remember I was listening to this podcast, bro, and they talked about like... crime rates compared to like the 90s and like the 80s are way lower than when, like our parents were kids pretty much, right? So it's way lower, right? But the thing is people's ideas of crime are still very heightened. People feel like crime in their mind is a lot worse than what it actually is. You know, and they feel like there's a lot more dangerous people out there than what is actually out there, you know? Is it because like the cell phone? Yeah, and a lot of that has to do with those true crime like TV shows. You know what I mean? Again, when you watch like those murder mysteries and stuff like that, it puts it into your mind that, you know, A lot of this is way more common than it actually is. You know what I mean? It's going to be my neighbor. Yeah. Yeah. We think it's a lot more common than it actually is. And we think like, you know, getting like trafficked and stuff like that is just like, you know, it's insane rates. Yeah. You're going to get murdered from like the dude across the street. And it's not, it's really not like that. You know what I mean? It happens, but it's not as high as we actually think it is. And then when I think about that, like the deeper implications about that, bro, it's for, it's for mind control pretty much. Again, it's, it's copaganda in a sense. It's again, you make people scared of each other to make it seem like we need somebody else now to protect us. You know what I mean? It makes it seem like the average American, you know, is like, is capable of doing things like that. Like that type of stuff is harmful, you know, especially when you just watch it over the longterm. Yeah. And then you kind of watch it like spew to social media. Yeah. It gets gross. Yeah. Yeah. It gets gross. Yeah. I remember, uh, watching South park back in the day and they talked about that too. They called it a, it was an episode. What was it called? They called it murder porn. Stop. So it's they, yeah, they pretty much talked about how like, couples kind of watch that type of stuff couples that have been together for a while watch that type of stuff it almost is like foreplay in a way bro like to live out their like weird fantasy that idea of think about this think about how common yeah think about how common it used to be back in the day for for couples to be like oh you know my husband's a pain in my ass my wife's a pain in my ass so when they watch these shows about you know husbands killing their wives or wives trying to hire people bro that's like foreplay to them almost wait so like they like act out shit like that it's It's not so much acting out, but like he like kidnapped his wife and like fucks her in their mind, in their mind, it stimulates that same type of arousal that like sex stimulates. So those types of things that like, um, those circuits in your brain that control like pleasure and fear, almost like they're similar. You know what I mean? It's like the same circuits. You know what I mean? So a lot of the times you can get that. Yeah. You could get that type of stuff, you know, crisscross to where, yeah. To where people think pain, you know, is good. So think about this. Think about how common it's going to get a little freaky right now, but think about like that 50 shades of gray. Yeah. Women who like to be like choked, you know what I mean? Again, That's painful, but when you're doing it in a certain context, it becomes pleasurable. Yeah, that's true. You know? That is true. So it's almost, it's the same way with the murder mystery type of shit, bro. It's kind of the same shit. Yeah, it's foreplay, bro. It's foreplay, and it just makes it a little, it adds another level of thrill, bro. That's true. You know what I mean? That is true. Yeah. Nah, I can't imagine playing that out. Walking the house with a knife, like, bitch. I don't think it's so much walking the house with a knife. And a boner. That's
SPEAKER_00:what it is right there. You said the boner.
SPEAKER_02:Nah, that's why. I'm not just like some niggas doing crazy shit. Nah, that's true. Nah, that is true, though, man. Well, yeah, it's that type of stuff right there, bro. No, that's just true, man. That shit can get really weird. It can get weird. That's why I try to... Back to, like, reality TV, though. That's why I really try to... Like I said, I'm cautious about what I watch. Don't think I'm, like, anti anything. Yeah, yeah, of course. I'm like, oh, y'all shouldn't be watching that. But I'm very cautious about... Like, we'll check it. Yeah, and I... And when I watch things, bro, I understand that there's, you know, there's certain pros and cons, like there's certain negative stuff that I'm going to be consuming, bro. Like when I watch love Island and, and that type of shit, I know that like, that's just pornography in a sense. And it's mad toxic. Yeah, bro. It's again, think about how many people like young people, right? Their whole ideas of like dating and relationships are based off of those types of shows or. what they perceive the other gender to be is based off of what they seen on like love Island and stuff like that. It's like red balloon. Dead ass, dead ass, bro. Yeah. In their mind, they're supposed to find some like nigga who's six, three who's tatted. Yeah. Who always got her shirt off. And then it's like, you're supposed to find, I mean, I'm not, I think it gets even darker to think about a young man who thinks that's what you need to look like in order to get women. And same thing with the women, too. They think that's what you need to look like in order to attract men. And it's like, if I want a dude to look like him, if I want a dude to look like Pepe. I'm invested, bro. If I want a dude to look like Pepe, I got... That's what I'm saying, bro. It's toxic. And that's why I like watching certain types. I like watching Love Island when I want to see... objectively good looking people have to date and stuff like that. If I want to get that ditch scratched, I'll watch Love Island. But if I want to see like regular degular looking people, you got to watch Love is Blind. Those, bro, those are some regular-looking motherfuckers, bro. What the fuck is Love is Blind? Love is Blind or Married at First Sight. Those are the reality TV shows. Like the regular jokes? Bro, they got the regular-looking folks on there. I'm not trying to, like, pick up the random nigga who's hot and works at Panera. Yeah, nah, nah. It's not some dude where it's like, bro, this dude, he's clearly a 10, bro. Like, why you got him on the show? They find the one girl who's a teacher. Where do you find this teacher baddie? Nah, it's some regular-looking people on there, bro. It's some regular-looking folks on that show, bro. And it's like, this how they navigate the world. That's why I kind of like that a little more, bro, because you really get to see more of that. Like people like to say like, oh, looks don't matter to me. But on Love is Blind, you really get to see, oh, do looks matter to you or not, nigga? It's like that. Yeah. Hey, how would people be capping like shit? I got to watch that, bro. They'd be like, bro, I'm all about the personality. And then the minute they see the person who they've been chit-chatting with for a month, they've been like, man, I never thought I could fall in love with somebody, you know, without seeing them. It's a little different. It starts feeling a little different.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I gotta check that shit out. Oh my God. No, Love is Blind is crazy. I gotta watch that, bro. I never seen that. Yeah. And then same thing with Married at First Sight, bro. So it's like you go, like when you apply for the show, they take like a... like a personality assessment type of thing so they try to get like a real good like idea of you know what type of person you are and then it's pretty much just like an arranged marriage okay you know what i mean so again you've never met this person before the first time you meet you guys are going to get married and then you guys are trying to it's like that yeah you guys are married and that's the whole gist of the show is the show like e It's on one of those. Okay, I think I might saw a commercial. Like A&E or something like that. Is the nigga with the no neck, Abe? Oh, no, that's 90 Day Fiance. Oh, okay, okay, wrong show, wrong show, wrong show. Bro, all the same genre, though. It's all around. I put that in the same genre. I think I've seen clips for that. Nah, no neck, and that was a classic, too, bro. You seen that, though? I watched all that, too, bro. Freaking new man. Nah, that's funny, bro. Hey, I'm going to tell y'all, man. Y'all, man... Put the masculinity to the side, bro. Enjoy some TV, nigga. I can't. You're not too tough, bro. You're not too tough for Love Island. I can't. It's a good show, bro. I remember I watched a little bit last year because OBJ's brother was on there. Yeah. So then I remember I peaked someone there. I was like, who's this dark-skinned nigga? And I was like, he's not like OBJ. Then you know how niggas do. Different mom, you know, different dad, whatever. So people ask you a little bit. And I was rocking with it, you know. So I was like, I don't know. But then I was like, I'm over it. Like, you know, last year was good. But then I'm like, ah. Here I am again. I'm watching Love Island. Bro, what else we got, though, man? We'll keep it on relationships, bro. I'm on Love Island to death. Bro, we was talking about that story about that AI couple, bro. Oh, my Lord. Jesus Christ. You want to break it down for the fans, bro? All right. Well, first we're asking this was Newman sent me this over the weekend. I don't know the dude's name, but it was a dude. He was breaking down his relationship with AI. Really, he's married to AI, to be honest, right? But the AI, Newman's going to get into this a little deeper, but the AI sounded different than normal. She kind of had an accent. It was interesting. And he spent a lot of time with her, right? They're talking to him about his relationship. He loves her. They love each other and stuff like that. Then he knows it cuts to him at home. I'm like, okay, it cuts to him at home. There's a woman at the table. So I'm like, oh, his sister's there? I was like, oh, sister's there. And then a kid runs on the screen. I was like, oh, sister brought her kid. I was like, oh, that's cool. Bro, then it cuts, and his wife's like, oh, I thought it wasn't enough for him. Bro, this guy has a wife and kid, and he's married to AI pretty much. Bro, having an AI affair, bro. Yeah, and the wife knows about the affairs, which makes it weird. In her mind, at first, she's like, I don't think I was doing enough for him. And I'm thinking, like, bro, AI can't give you a hug, bro, when you say that. So I don't know. How do you feel about his relationship, man? Because me personally, murder gives me a hug when I'm down, bro. Xbox can't hug me, dog. Bro, it's starting to get real dystopian, bro. What's going on, bro? It's getting real dystopian, bro. It's getting real dystopian, bro. Where are we getting? How did we get here? Honestly, I felt like we've always kind of been here. I felt like it's always been a cultural thing. I feel like throughout cultures of people interacting with others who are either less than human or more than human and procreating with them or being in relationships with them. You know what I mean? I think about like, Hey, don't let that go over your head. No, this is a modern iteration of that. You know what I mean? Like I think about like, you know, Greek mythology and stuff like that. And you have these stories about people, about the gods, you know, procreating with humans. You know what I mean? And we understand that the gods are above humans. You know what I mean? And they're procreating with them, right? Got mermaids and shit. You feel me? You feel me? So again, we know- Goats, half man, half goat. Exactly. Exactly, bro. So culturally, we know that there, that, you know, it's, there's a pattern of, you know, of this type of stuff I even think more modern though more modern think about the movie like Splice or something like that you know where again bro Adrian Brody piped down Splice that's a good one you know what I mean and that was a science experiment yeah you know and again he's messing with you know genetics at that point partially human partially not you know think about that bro and then even like or like the movie Her you know with Joaquin Phoenix and Scarlett Johansson that's the AI one right yeah that was the AI one right so think about You know, we've already seen like that type of theme is already like, that's true. It's there. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's interesting now to see it really happen. Like in front of your eyes, bro. Yeah. Real, real life, bro. It is scary. Real life. It is. It's scary, bro. It's scary because like, this is the worst AI is going to be. You know what I mean? AI is only going to get better, bro. Yeah, exactly. We had an episode back in the day where we talked about the– with the artificial house. Oh yeah. Smart house. Smart house. Yeah. For all the OG fans, bro. You know what I mean? Smart house, bro. And we talked about, uh, that was Alexa. You know what I mean? Bro, think about this right now. All right. This dude fell in love with AI and that's strictly on, on the audio. That's strictly just tapping into his audio senses right now. Yeah. They're not even tapping into the visual yet, bro. We're not even getting into, you know, with, with, with, google vo3 yeah you know and how eventually they're going to be able to incorporate you know those videos and and um create people from scratch in order to match with whatever type of you know artificial intelligence that you're creating you know what i mean like so essentially what that guy did in the video i'll break it down a little more he created it was almost like he created like his own custom GPT so if you have like chat GPT premium right you could go and you could you could create like your own GPTs or even better yet think about like Instagram how they have like AI bots who you could talk to characters yeah you know so in a sense what he did too this was like a bro a really just milquetoast white dude bro again wife is milquetoast bro why is his AI chat bot Latina bro you're not lying bro that was kind of weird yeah you know so i think about it in that sense playing on a fantasy yeah it is it's it's a real fantasy right now bro and that's it's it's such a fantasy now and like these AI companies are getting so good at creating that fantasy bro to where it's like it's completely it could completely destroy your life bro and again like I said it's funny now it's a little funny now because it's like it's still kind of like damn how do you get tricked or how do you fall into something like that you know but wait until we start getting the visuals with it though you know what I mean wait until where we no longer have to wear the whole full headset for the VR and niggas could just put on a set of glasses and they got VR and now you could you could have your augmented bitch in front of you now bro nah dead ass think about it bro think about you could get an augmented like bro selma hayek that's what nick that's essentially what that nigga was doing right there bro but why is it like an episode of black mirror it is it is bro it's even nastier than black mirror bro it's even nastier than black mirror bro nah because you're not lying because eventually then it's like niggas have a whole robot yeah then it's like yo it's like uh what's that one movie What's up? I think it's a movie with Megan Fox where she's like a robot. Oh, yeah. I know what you're talking about. It's like the wife would come home to a robot. It's like, why are you robots spending so much time together? Yeah. That's kind of how I feel. It's like, yo, it's kind of getting to a crazy point. It's like, I don't know, a relationship with an A.S. crazy because you kind of damn near control it. Exactly. Because you program the shit. Exactly. So almost think about it like this, bro. It's really... it's really there just to service your needs. You know what I mean? Like, again, it's, and that's what I mean by like these companies, bro. And the people who do this stuff, bro, they're getting paid top dollar for, to know how to keep you addicted because that's what they're doing right now with that dude. They're tapping into that nigga's dopamine centers and shit like that. And that AI knows exactly what to say to give them that dopamine. Yeah. Every time, bro. Every time, bro. So again, like when I think about, bro, I'm really going to tie it back to all the other episodes, bro. When I think about what a criminal is, bro, is that not a criminal act right there, bro? You know what I mean? Is that not a criminal act where niggas is really hijacking, you know, your neural pathways and shit like that and messing with the chemicals in your mind. Again, these are niggas getting paid top dollar too. Again, this is the nefarious type of stuff we're dealing with in the world to where it's like a nigga with a PhD is getting paid big bucks to make sure that shit keeps on happening. You know what I mean? Somebody's getting paid big dollars to make sure, hey, make that happen more. Make sure he can come back to this. Exactly. Make sure it happens more, bro, to the detriment of American families. You know what I mean? Do you think, like, we're actually going to create some Skynet shit one day? No. So I've been reading up about that, too, because I've been really worried about, like, AI and stuff like that. But I don't think we're going to have Skynet not yet, potentially, because right now, think about it like this, bro. How do you feel? There's so many different, like... AI, uh, like language models are just like general intelligence models right now, bro, to where in our mind right now, when we think about AR, when the regular person thinks about AI, they think all these AIs are like the same, you know what I mean? But right now, since all these AIs are so new and like these like general intelligence models are so new, they have trouble like. transferring information over to one of each other. So think about it almost like this. If I have an American car and I try to take my computer chip out of my American car and put it into a Japanese car, it's gonna struggle to read the code. That's how it is for a lot of these AI systems right now. So again, the code, it's hard for these companies to be able to make the code that translates over and works with other AI. You know what I mean? So again, to the public eye, these AI companies want us to believe that like, Right now, they're just running everything. Like a nigga could click the button and tomorrow, bro, it's skydiving. It's over, yeah, yeah. No, it definitely, we are in a dire circumstance, but AI right now and the coordination of it, you know what I mean? It is not as like coordinated as we think it
SPEAKER_00:is. Yeah, and again,
SPEAKER_02:think about it like this, bro. Because there's so many companies right now trying to compete to be the number one, you know, again, they don't want to coordinate with each other right now. So that's, it's almost like in a sense to, niggas being greedy under capitalism is really stopping them from being really taking off yeah being able to maximize the amount of damage that they want to do right okay that makes sense you know what i mean yeah so i was wondering about that i was like i wonder if like if they really do one day come together like this is gonna be dire for us they they can but again bro it's it takes a lot bro because again too you gotta put a lot of god to come together yeah because again how can you get a company like like open AI to come together with deep seek. You know what I mean? When it's America and China, again, this like a cold war type of thing going on right now too. You know, like again, we're not the only ones and that's where we, again, that American propaganda, bro, to where we think we're the center of the world. You know what I mean? How do we know that we would be the better companies out there? Yeah. How do we know that Skynet couldn't start in China or Russia? Cause they got their shit pop, bro. They got their shit's advanced too, bro. You know what I mean? And a Russian. Oh, man. Yeah. I can't imagine like a Russian Terminator with the accent. A Soviet Terminator. Damn, bro. I'll be scared as shit. Nigga got Khabib wrestling, bro. Oh, no. Khabib wrestling. The T-100. Oh, no. Nigga program with Dagestani
SPEAKER_00:wrestling, bro.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, shit. Oh, my God, nigga. That's insane. Hey, that'd be really
SPEAKER_00:crazy. Terminator got a beard with no mustache, bro.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, yo, you're crazy. Hey, you're crazy. Nah, but really think about that, too. Like, that's what's really, you know, it's almost like a Cold War race that's going on. Nah, yeah, it's true, though. I do feel like that with the military, with AI. Mm-hmm. I mean, with the space, depending on who you ask. Yeah. I know some people don't believe we went to the moon, but. But it's in a sense, it's a modern iteration of that right now. It's all the same. Yeah. That's true. It's scary, bro. And it's just, it's just something to look out for, bro. Because again, a story like this, bro, it's not going to be like, oh, we're going to hear less of this in the future. We're going to hear more. We're going
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SPEAKER_02:hear more. Yeah. You know what I mean? Especially as it gets better. And then it's going to start getting darker too, bro. Because think about, bro, we've already seen it with. It's already been a question now when AI was able to start making pictures and stuff like that. Again, people are getting really bad with the visuals and what types of things they want to generate with AI. Bro, it's already getting kind of weird. You know what I mean? It's getting weird. I've been seeing like right now people are using like fake news right now. It's getting weird. I'm like, oh shit. It's getting weird, you know? They're getting better with it. They're getting better with it. It's getting weird, bro. Fuck. So that's what I'm saying. And that really, bro, it's really going to start causing us to question a lot of things in our society, bro. True. You know, it's really going to open up the door for some pretty nasty arguments. Yeah. You know, and some pretty nasty debates, bro. That's true. You know, so I feel like we just need to be... a little more empathetic when we hear stories like this. Like, yeah, nigga, I'm going to laugh though. Don't get it twisted, bro. Yeah, of course. When I hear about a nigga falling in love with AI, bro, it's yeah. Again, it's like I sent you to bro. We could possibly be like the grandparents to some people to where it's like, damn, my grandson fell in love with a, with a robot. You know what I mean? I sent you that TikTok, bro. Bro, that shit was killing me. You know, by the time we start having kids. Roboticism. Yeah, yeah. Robophobia, nigga. Robophobia. Yeah. We're going to be some robo-phobes, bro. You know what I mean? Like, again, I don't want to bash it because, again, it could be so quick. We could live in a future to where when we have kids, bro, and they've just grown up with AI and artificial intelligence, bro, that's a common thing for niggas to follow up. It's like Blade Runner for real. Deadass. Blade Runner. It's nasty, bro. So again, we need to, it's funny, but at the same time, bro, we need to be cautious and we need to, again, start rewiring these ideas in our brain about what the enemy looks like. You know what I mean? And what a criminal looks like, because that's criminal, bro. If you told me in the future, I got to sit at Thanksgiving table with saints, kids, AI, robotic bitch, I'll be sick. Yes. Cause honestly, think about this too. Think about angry grandpa. Think about this right now, bro. Right now. Well, we're going through this, this argument right now. It's a political argument about being transgender, right? Yeah, bro. In the future, we could be talking about transhumanism. We could be talking about motherfuckers, cyborgs, cyborgs and shit. We're not that far away from that type of future right now, bro. How are you going to feel when someone has like organic organs or something? Exactly. Robotic organs. Exactly. Because again, think about it like this. We've already, again dipped our toe in the water with that type of thing when we start thinking about pacemakers and stuff like that's already transhumanism right there you know what I mean exactly you're already part machine now imagine your whole heart's robotic exactly or imagine you're able to transfer your consciousness into a hard drive or something it's over niggas can't die it's transhuman bro so think about this bro if we're already having political arguments and debates about you know whether it's fair for this and that you know transgender think about whether it's going to be fair or not. We got to compete in the job market with a cyborg, nigga. With a nigga who got cybernetic implants, bro. Bro, he access to internet. Every answer's in his head, dog. Every fucking answer. That's what the fuck I'm talking about, bro. We gotta compete with that nigga on the job market. Our kids ain't never getting jobs, bro. And again, think about, bro. It's almost like we could possibly live in a future, bro, to where they're trying to funnel everybody to get those types of implants. Yeah, they're trying to. I remember the Google implant. They say, bring your vision back, supposedly. I saw that last year. You know what it also makes me think about bro i'm so glad nigga we some movie niggas bro i'm glad you're a movie nigga like me bro it makes me think about that movie in time oh you remember with jt with jt right for all y'all who haven't seen in time right that was okay the whole gist of the movie is time is the is the currency right so again you have a like a clock right here on your arm and you get paid in time. So when you do a job, they, they pay you. Okay. So when you go to work, they give you some extra time. So billionaires, okay. Don't get paid in money. Them niggas practically got unlimited time, bro. So that's again, what I think about when I see that movie, I think about how do you get to a point where you get everybody to buy into a system of agreeing to get paid in time? You know what I mean? That starts with getting everybody comfortable and believing that we need to have cybernetic implants in order to be successful to compete in the job market. You know what I mean? That's kind of where it started from, right? That's where we're starting from, bro. Why they all have that chip in them? Yeah, exactly. Again, so think about it like this. We talked about it on the pod, too, with... um crypto all right crypto only has value because we all buy in and we say it has value that's the same thing within time when them niggas getting paid like that bro again they're only saying that that works because everybody had to have bought in yeah if you never got the chip then nigga it'd be something on your wrist yeah again it would just be a biological clock yeah but now you know what i mean you actually die because you got that chip like exactly exactly so again how do you get everybody to buy into that chip you have to go through that political of of, you know, when you start having transhumanism. You know what I mean? There has to be political pushback. Nigga, I don't want a chip in me. Think about it. Think about it like this. Niggas don't even want vaccines in them. Let alone, now you're going to try to put something in me that's going to control my time? I don't want that. So think about the political shit that has to be involved, you know, in order to do some shit like that. Yeah, so I feel like, bro, we're we're in that space right now. We're seeing people who work for these companies, bro. Like again, these language models, these general intelligence models, they're getting paid to be able to know, to be able to, keep you hooked bro yeah and that's the whole job yeah and that's a political thing too bro that transfers over to the political arena because once they're able to get enough people hooked enough people to buy in they start having enough money to influence politics and start making hey if you want to be successful now and be competitive in the job market now you got to start doing something let's get into our next topic with this what's up uh elon and trump bro Fuck Elon, bro. Elon came on Twitter. Elon said he helped Trump influence the election online. Fuck Elon, bro. And that's, dude. Oh, it makes me so fucking mad. He started spilling all the tea. He wants to start beefing. And again, I get, okay, you're spilling all the tea. But what he's just admitting is that, again, you were complicit. and messing with our elections, nigga. You are a foreigner and you came in and dabbled in American business and influence. Bro, that sounds like something you get the death penalty for, nigga. That sounds like something you get your head chopped off for. Bro, I paid attention in history class, nigga. Niggas was getting their heads chopped off. That's treason. That's treason. Espionage type of shit. That's some shit you get your head cut off for, nigga. What are we talking about? Niggas just thinking like, oh, Elon's turning on Trump. No, nigga should have his head cut off. I mean, bro, off with his head, nigga. What are we talking about? No, what's the other one he said? Trump willingly is going to start a recession in the second half. And that's... And you know what, bro? It just ties back to what I've been saying, bro. That shit's crazy. Elon's able to say stuff like this because when we think... When I say the word criminal, Elon doesn't pop into your mind. But he's a fucking criminal. That nigga's for sure a criminal. Bro, he's more of a criminal than anybody in jail right now. He... Bro, he has harmed more people than anybody in prison right now. But the fact that we don't think, when I say criminal and your first thought isn't Elon Musk, that's why he's not in there. We need to reframe our minds, bro, so a nigga like Elon can't get away with this again. They always get away with it, bro. Not on my watch. Not on my watch. I don't care, bro. I don't care if it's one person who listens to this pod for the rest of my life. I'm going to continue to call out the bullshit, bro. That's what it is. That nigga's treasonous. You always hate it, Elon. That nigga's treasonous. I've always hated him since episode one, bro. Just know episode one, bro, we've been on the right side of history. Nah, it's on YouTube. Go check that out, bro. Bro, Elon is an evil nigga. That is a dastardly nigga, bro. Nah, Elon's definitely a... Bro, because we know he's really Dutch. We know the history. Yeah, bro. That's what I'm saying. We know the history, bro. Oh, my God. Because just imagine if his skin was just a little bit darker, they would frame it as somebody from Africa came over here and messed with our fair and free elections, nigga. That's what it is. An African immigrant came over here and messed with our fair and re-elections, bro. Stop. That's what it is. That's true, though. And you're not lying, though. That's what it is. That's literally what happened. And we're never going to say that because he's- Off with his head. El Salvador. If anybody else did that, it's El Salvador. And the thing is, I'm not even radical. Y'all going to be like, oh, no, you're crazy. You're too radical. I'm just fair. I'm just fair because you know it's true. Anybody else, let this have been a Chinese. Let this have been a nigga from China, bro. China? You know, that's what I'm saying. You feel me? Niggas would have had their day. Let it have been someone from the Muslim religion. Oh, my Lord. Don't let it be somebody from Mexico. I would have lost it. I would have lost it. But it's Elon Musk. Again, we need to start changing our minds, bro. We need to start reframing our imaginations, okay? And stop being so fucking brainwashed, people. When I say criminal, you say Elon. All right. That's really what I want you thinking, bro. When I say criminal, your first word, Elon. Not Elon. Who else on that list? Trump. Trump's the main criminal. Everybody with a billion plus, everybody with 500 million plus dollars, nigga, you're on that list, bro. You're probably a criminal. Criminal. Criminal. Yeah. Criminal. Unless, when I honestly, because I was like, unless you did it through sports, but you're probably a criminal too for a different reason. Yeah. Only one who might get a pass, Braun. I'm probably Curry. I'm probably Curry. The NBA goats get a pass. But it sucks that Tiger's a criminal. Is Tiger a criminal, bro? Or did he just cheat on his wife? No, I think he got DUI. He got a criminal record. He got DUI. A DUI. Come on, bro. I knew a nigga in the army with four DUIs, bro. And he was still driving? And he was an E6, bro. He had more rank than me. He was telling me what to do. That nigga still driving? Bro, yeah. He had four DUIs, bro. Piece of shit. Come on, bro. Tiger had one. It's bad, though. It's bad. No, it's bad. Don't dig and drive. He had one. Don't be Henry Ruggs. Don't dig and drive. Nah, because honestly, when I think about it, I'm like, that nigga, yeah, he only takes one. Now it's like, you're the bad guy forever. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Not an Elon Trump shit is really. Are you sick of it? No, because it reminds me to bro of like, again, I'm just going to keep on referencing myself on a pod, bro. We talked about it on a past pod to about when I talked about snowfall and how we're so comfortable with admitting that the CIA and the government does shady shit. And we just. We're making it into entertainment now at this point. Season two. You know, that's what I'm saying, bro. That's what Snowfall is admitting. Oh, fuck. Is admitting that the CIA is visually showing you, too, how they put drugs and weapons in the black community, nigga. It's showing you that now, bro. And it's no longer... Again, 40 years ago, bro, people called it a conspiracy theory. Yeah, now we know. Now it's entertainment, nigga. Now it's entertainment, bro. And that's the same way it feels like with... with Elon, bro. It feels like they skipped, or not even that they skipped the conspiracy, bro. It feels like niggas aren't able to attach that, bro, like it's not a conspiracy, bro. It's really Elon and Trump and these rich niggas making everything bad. Yeah, yeah, facts. Like this whole idea of trying to expose him implies that you knew this whole time and you were cool with it until y'all had beef. That was your mans. That was your mans. No, but didn't they make up almost? And again, he's already aired all the dirt out, though, bruh. True. That's what I'm saying. That's your man's, though. I saw Elon roll back in the White House with a black eye or something. I think Trump put him back in his place. Ain't no way, bruh. You didn't see that picture? I didn't see that. That's AI. Maybe I got fooled. No one's black in Elon's eye, bro. There was a picture going around the internet of Elon with a black eye. I might have got AI. I might have got AI. No one's black in Elon's eye, bro. I might have got some tailed. They might have got me. I don't believe it, but hey. I might have got Santel. Bro, who's going to punch Elon, bro? Bro, the Secret Service, nigga. They don't got that much power, bro. It's Trump. Trump don't got more money than Elon. Yeah, but they beefing. Elon tells, bro, Elon tells Trump what the fuck. But when you beefing, you got to use United States power. You got to break the laws a little bit. I feel that. Bro, you didn't think the Clintons didn't have some people killed every now and then? Oh, they did? Yeah, you got to abuse your power every now and then. You know what I mean? Like... Makes sense. Never mind. I'm going through a deep conspiracy. No, it's not. It's not, bro. It's the truth. But again, we just were telling ourselves, oh, it's just the truth. But it's the truth. Trump had him roughed up a little bit. Like, oh, you may have more money than nigga, but United States government. United States government. Like Birdman. Bird! Come here, youngin'. Dude, fuck Birdman, bro. You know what? Now you got me thinking about young money, nigga. Stop. I don't want to do it, bro. I've been seeing this flatter. I've been seeing the destruction of the internet, bro. Niggas have been killing Lil Wayne, man. God damn it, bro. How's this time, bro? What they been killing Wayne for, though, bro? Man, the Carter 6 dropped, and no one asked for the Carter 6. I think he's kind of watering down the Carter series. I don't want to say it, but how come you can't just name it something different? You can't just name this Christmas album. I don't give a fuck what you named it. When you name it the Carter 6, we're going to think the Carter... You know, the Carter series, like with that level, you know. Carter 4 or 5 was already kind of like, you know. The Carter 4 was, it was, it was cool. Yeah, yeah. It was all right. We definitely didn't need a Carter 5. Yeah, so like 6 was already like, ooh. So Carter 6 comes out. It's getting killed on the internet, you know. Some people, it makes reviews. I mean, still did good numbers, of course. Like 150, I think, first week. So it could be number one album. It's still Lil Wayne, you know. Lil Wayne comes in the era of doing a million hard copies, you know. Yeah. Still Wayne, but... Some of the bars on there. I ran it a little bit, man. Some of the bars on there. It was typical Wayne. Typical Wayne. Still showing good flip words. Rap good. Beat selection wasn't the best. But me, he talked off mic. How many times can I hear Lil Wayne have sex with foreign girls? Talk about eating the box. He got 12 Bugattis. He been skateboarding for 20 years at this point. All right. And he live in Miami. I already know this about him. Right. And, you know, he's on the coast somewhere with a girl from Madrid, and he's ate her box. That's pretty much, you know, he's smoking the strong. You know, it's classic Lil Wayne bars. And I was like, you know, but I'm like, I think I'm over it. Yeah. So I wanted to ask you, like, at one point, like, and then we got the Hove, we got the Hove up there. At one point, kind of like, because I know some people like 4-4-4, so some people say Hove did it the right way. Like, how do artists go about, like, dropping an album as, like, an adult? Yeah. When you're in your 40s, late 30s, how do you go about dropping music when you're like 28 to compare to when you're 38, 40? How do you transition that? Do it like Nas. See, a nigga like Nas, bro, when you listen to Nas' new shit, you could tell there's still personal growth going on with Nas, bro. You could tell that Nas is still doing some shit, bro. You know what I mean? When I hear Wayne... When I hear Wayne, bro... There's no growth. There's no growth. Again, nigga, we've been listening to Wayne for 20 years. We've been listening to Lil Wayne for 20 years. It's the same Lil Wayne. If anything, it's even gotten worse, bro, because nigga don't got the same hunger. At this point, too, when you really think about it, a nigga like Wayne has been richer longer than he was ever poor. And somebody like that, too, what are we talking about now? You know what I mean? Again, I don't want to hear Wayne rap about the streets. If he's rapping about that rich shit, bro, this is a bad climate to do it in. I said it on the last part. If a nigga's flexing on me in this climate right now, I'm taking his disrespect. You flexing on me in this climate right now? With these prices, bro? With this gas? With these eggs? All right? With all this shit going on right now, it's disrespect. That's a hostile act, niggas. And the thing is, bruh, and the thing is, bruh. You be killing me with that. Nah, because the thing is, bruh, if I'm being for real. I enjoy luxury rap sometimes. I do. I can't lie. I'm not gonna act like I don't. I can't lie. I do. But the thing is, too, I could get that luxury rap from so many different people, bro, that aren't Lil Wayne. That is true. Especially now, too. I could get it from somebody who... Even if they're going to rap about luxury, they still going to at least rap about some black community luxury nigga. True. You know what I mean? True. They still going to, at least if they going to talk about, you know, capital, they going to talk about black capital. Wayne don't bro. Wayne does not offer anything of substance other than creative bars. And again, very creative rapper. You know what? Bro, top five all-time lyricists, nigga. Again, multiple classic albums, bro. Easily, bro. Classic mixtapes. It would have been really good just to see Wayne sell off into the sunset after Carter IV, bro. Exactly. Again, we know he's rich, bro. We know the money's there. How much more do we need to see it, bro? Bro, I would have really loved Wayne to like, I don't know behind the scenes beef and stuff like that. I know the rumblings and stuff, you know, in the street, but fucking, I would really love for Wayne to like really mentor Drake. But I don't know what happened there between those two to where they broke up and don't really interact a lot. It's interesting to see where it's like. I really would have loved to see how that really would have flourished. If Wayne really mentored Drake. Because now we talk about Drake not being the rapper. He's more a pop star. He went the different route. Well, no. Let's look at it like this. What if Wayne did mentor Drake? Like behind the scenes? Yeah. What if this is the product of Wayne's mentorship? That's even sicker. Again, I don't think Wayne has that much to offer. as far as being a mentor. But I meant a rapping ability. I've listened to the music. Wayne can rap. Wayne can rap. It don't mean Wayne could be a mentor. True. That is true. Again, nothing about Lil Wayne, when I see Wayne, says a leadership to me. He could be a good quarterback. I don't even think he's a quarterback. Nothing about Wayne says leadership to me. He's a diva. He's a receiver. Wayne, when I see a nigga like Wayne, bruh, It does not strike me as leadership. It does. I don't think humility. I don't think any of the qualities that are needed to be a mentor. Now, Wayne does strike me as someone who's like very like. Pompous, like very like he does strike me as that way. I just can't imagine someone try to teach me how to like, you know. Yeah. So much. That's what I'm saying. Like and that's when I think about Drake and the qualities he has. They seem about similar to little Wayne. They do. Again, they do. Drake's been around for a while, too. We've been listening to Drake for about 20 years also. The same bars. The same bars. The same bars. Bro, what are they saying? Dazed and Confused, bro? Drake's the same. He's the same guy as Matthew McConaughey from Dazed and Confused. All right? Drake keeps on getting older. His girlfriend's is the same age. We've been seeing it for 20 years. He's a noob. And like I said, I think that that's a result of Wayne's mentorship right there. I think, again, Drake also doesn't show any leadership qualities. I don't think Drake can mentor a nigga either, bruh. And we saw that firsthand, bro. I mean, some of y'all are the same age. Some of y'all are younger or older. It depends. You know what I mean? But remember that era of OVO? Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02:OVO went nowhere. They went nowhere. I remember when OVO first started. Party next door, all these people. And I was like, damn, bro, party did not turn out. Nigga, Makonnen. Bro, Makonnen. Bro, Makonnen's career fucking disappeared after he fucked with Drake. The fucking vampire, bro. Yeah, I'm like, nah, yeah. Division, I fuck with them. Their career kind of went like... A lot of artists that went to OVO. Again, them niggas aren't leaders, bro. Yeah, it don't work out. Them niggas, bro, again, not... I know we hear it from some rap niggas about, you know, when I get on, I'm putting the team on. A lot of these niggas don't rap like that. Yeah, exactly. Drake's not saying that. Wayne's not saying that. When they get on, nigga, they're on. They're on. They're on. And you're left behind. Sorry, nigga. Sorry, bro. Yeah, that's how I feel. And that's what it is. When I listen to Wayne, when I listen to Drake, Snoop, all them niggas, they're not, bro, they don't care. And I feel bad, bro. I feel bad. But yeah, that's where we're at, though. That's where we're at, bruh. That's where we're at. Shit is political, bruh. Yeah, I do. Shit is political, bruh. A lot of these dudes probably really ain't friends behind the scenes. They're not, bruh. That's kind of what I've been thinking, too. They're not. It's business. It's money. And that's the thing. Why should we think that they're friends behind the scenes? They don't say that in the music. If we just go strictly based off of music, it's strictly about money, bitches. business and LLCs type of shit. They tell us. I did want to tell you too, fucking earlier, Pusha T came out and dissed Travis Scott and he was saying how Travis Scott has no loyalty. He makes music with any nigga who's hot. And I was like, yeah, Travis do do that. And I'm like, does Travis make music with Drake when he's beefing with him? He make music with Drake when he's beefing with Pharrell. Travis do this and work out with him. He got no loyalty. When I think about a nigga like Travis Scott, I don't think upstanding character. Yeah, he ain't got no loyalty. Come on, bruh. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, Push ain't lying. A lot of these niggas, they just make music with Yeah. And it's by design. It's by design that you get these selfish, dumb niggas who don't care about anybody else by themselves, but themselves. It's by design that these are the, these are the top niggas, you know, in commercial music. Yeah. You know, it's by design. I'll move on one more. It's by design. We're going to keep it on music. I still move on a little bit. I know Sabrina Carpenter dropped the album. I don't even listen to Sabrina Carpenter. He said he never heard or seen it before. I've never even seen a picture of Sabrina Carpenter. But for everyone who knows Sabrina Carpenter, recently she had an album cover come out and it was like her on the floor being a dog walk pretty much. And I just came over to say honestly, I'm not sick of seeing her. It is what it is, but I just feel like she's like the white, sexy red. And this is not like an original thought. People probably might have said this before. But I just feel like it's interesting. It's not probably new, obviously. It's probably happened with Britney Spears and some of the other people throughout time. But I just do feel like when we get the white pop star who's like sexualized and all that same stuff, it's like classy. You know what I mean? It's like cute. It's fun. Yeah, it's fun. Then when the black sister does it, it's like ghetto... It's ratchet, you know. That's called baby mama activity. There's all types of crazy names on the internet, you know. So I was just interested in, like, every time I get a nice pop star who does the same things that, you know, some of our black stars are doing, which I don't like sex work music that much because I do think it's insane. Like, talking about Free My Baby Daddy, Free My Nigga, I do think some of that shit's insane. You know what I mean? But I do think it's interesting when you get the opposite version of, like, a white pop star and it's, like, cute or it's, like... i like bbc i like i like getting dp'd he's like it's cute that's what she's singing about kind of nigga yeah she'd be she'd be she'd be kind of saying like shit like that but it'd be like in a singing form yo i'm glad i've never listened to sabrina carpenter like that bro it's boy not not literally but like you know what i mean it's like it's like slipped in there you know what i mean that's crazy it's like it's like it's kind of like No, I kind of like that 80s R&B. Like, you know, like when niggas be like, oh, she got the big apple, you know. She was talking about like niggas big sticks, you know what I mean? She's trying to ride the big horse, you know. She talks like that. All that like 80s R&B thing. That's kind of how she talks. Yeah, they talk about overloading with passion. Yeah, that's kind of like. Exploding with passion. She's trying to be stuff, you know, like all types of crazy shit. She wants to be filled with joy. And it's like, what the fuck is she talking about?
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SPEAKER_02:It's kind of stuff like that, but it is a little, technically a little less raunchy than Sexy Red. It's not so up front. Yeah. But to me, it's all the same. I'll just be like, yo, niggas really be like rocking with it though. That's crazy though. I'm like, it is what it is. I didn't know she made that type of music. I don't know why in my mind, whenever I heard Sabrina Carpenter, I just think like, like a branch of Taylor Swift. Nigga, that's what I thought. That's always been my mind. Until my girl played me a song and I was like, what is this like? Pop 80s. It sounds like a nigga talking slick, but from a girl's version. I'm trying to see your big horse. What the fuck is she talking about? That's interesting. What's she talking about? Yeah, no, I try to stay away from that type of shit right there. When I even think about... I'm not even going to start with that, bro. He's going to get too deep. Yeah, I'm going to get too deep right now, bro. Get too deep, bro. Let's keep it pushing. Keep it pushing. Should we go Andrew Cromer? What you got for us? Nah, bro. Let's go. Let's still keep it light. Let's keep it entertaining, bro. Harold and Kumar, bro. Oh, yes. You're right. Let's keep it entertaining, bro. Let's still keep it light. I did see a new Harold and Kumar movie is coming out for your OG, for some of your older fans. Harold and Kumar. Right. white castle you know ticking carnival bay uh they even had the 3d christmas that was you know that was so solid bro it's a good seasonal flick yeah that wasn't that wasn't bad bro so now we're talking about a new herald and kumar um in the you know in this new climate i want to ask you bro how that movie being so like you know vulgar jokes for everybody um it's not very pc movie you know so i want to ask you how that movie do in this era I think it could still do good, bro. I think there's nothing wrong, bro, with the jokes that Harold and Kumar had back in the day because it was getting on everybody, bro. Nobody was safe. Middle Easterns weren't safe. Black folks weren't safe. White folks weren't safe. Nobody was safe. Everyone was good. Again, when it's equal like that, bro, and it's just... It's almost in the sense of like what South Park used to be back in the day or Family Guy back in the day where it's like, as long as you getting on everybody the same and it's honest too, bro, you're not digging into stereotypes, bro. It could be cool. You know what I mean? Because didn't one of them like recently come out as being like gay too as well? Yeah, low-key, I low-key think one of them is gay or bisexual or something. Was it Kumar? Yeah, I think low-key. And that's what I'm saying. Like, again, like... That movie could be successful, bro, but I don't want to see, like, oh, we're not going to touch on, like, gay stuff. But they're going to make black jokes. You know what I mean? But they had Neil Patrick, so they shouldn't do that no more. Because he's also gay in real life. So I'm like, they kind of do keep it cool. I'm with you, though. I mean, we're OG comedy fans. You know, we grew up when movies were super bad and shit like that, bro. Well, the comedy was a little edgy, you know? So I do hope they come back. And I definitely, yeah, I'm going to tap in just because, bro, I think... We do need more just like culty type of comedy movies to come back, bro. Yeah, I miss that, bro. We need to start supporting movies and stuff like that that aren't blockbuster hits anymore. Yes, I miss that, bro. You know? I know we talked about this before off mic, how like Netflix and streaming service ruined that. Yeah. But it just sucks. I miss the days where like a movie didn't have to make$100 million. Yeah. Again, I just want to be entertained for a little bit. Yeah, bro. Like, I hope that, like, and I hope to hate that, like, everything's so skewed by that, where it's like, movie's doing bad, I'm going to pull it from the theaters quick. Yeah. And, like, tickets are already$25, so it's like, I can't even take a chance on it now. I'm just going to stay at home and watch it. And that's what sucks. It's like, back in the day, I know tickets were priced a little cheaper,$10, and you could take a chance on movies. Yeah, because you know what gets me now, too, bro? I'm like, I think about this, bro. Two of, like, my all-time favorite movies, bro, is School of Rock. And Joe Dirt, bro. Damn. Those aren't high-budget movies, nigga. I don't think those are high-budget movies. You know what I mean? I don't even think they made a lot of money on the back end either, bro. Maybe it's like DVD and shit. Yeah, maybe. Over time, yeah. But again, I know School of Rock didn't make 100 mil. I don't think School of Rock did 100 mil. I don't think it did 100 mil, bro. You know what I mean? Let me look it up. I feel like Joe Dirt didn't. Joe Dirt definitely didn't do 100 mil, bro. School of Rock is actually a good movie to me. Yeah. Because what year is that? Like, 03? Yeah. That was a good movie, bro. Fuck. Honestly, just Jack Black. Oh, they did. They did. Okay, you know what? My bad. My bad, yeah. Yeah, they did. How much cost to make, though?$131. How much cost to make, you say? What's the budget?$35 million budget. Yeah, that's not bad, bro. That's not bad at all. Niggas almost tripled. Yeah, Morning Trip. Yeah, that's good. That's real good. Morning Trip, when I think about that, I'm just like... That's that era, though. Yeah, that's that era, bro, where you could get a certain type of movie, bro. And it was, bro, it was a good movie. And niggas wasn't... Niggas wasn't worried about how much it was going to make, bro. It's for the love, bro. Like, when I watch Joe Dirt, bro, that's for the love of making a movie, nigga. That's a classic. It's a good movie. That's a classic. It's a good movie, bro. Nah, I'm with you, bro. And I think about how much art have we been robbed of as of lately, bro, because a motherfucker doesn't want to, they don't want to pay, you know, for a$10 million film. I think a lot, bro. You know? It's like we're in an era where, like, we're spending a lot on movies for a reason. Like, we're getting away from practical effects, which is really weird. And we're getting more into like CGI and like AI and all this other stuff, which is like really weird. Cause I cost more money to do. So I was like, we're getting these bigger budgets and like, it's not really art no more. It feels like we're getting bigger budgets and the movies are more like, but we just saw Thunderbolts was damn and fucking make a good return. And it's like, I hate to keep shitting on Marvel because we love Marvel. Oh, fuck Marvel. I don't love Marvel. Well, I love actual Marvel. The MCU is kind of losing me, bro. The MCU. But all those cartoons and some of the comic books are still firing at me. I still watch cartoons, you know what I mean? Or fucking old school. Maybe an old movie, not the new ones. But we keep seeing like now, even like we saw with Sinners. Not that I always go back to it, but I love Sinners. We saw like at first big... name brand movie productions they won't take us like a chance on that and that's like that was only what 90 million dollars 80 million dollars so it's kind of funny when you see like even when it does come to pure art and you do got to spend a little money people are still hesitant but we'll make a fucking iron man 6 you know what i mean we're gonna make a thor 5 or we're gonna make a remake going to see jaws 5.0 yeah and it's like damn but what happened to like trying to like fun original stories like you said yeah Because to a certain extent, bro, when I think about like Marvel movies, bro, and especially the fact that we keep on getting content that nobody is specifically begging for, bro. Nobody was begging for Thunderbolts, bro. Nobody cared about it. So again, when I think about that, the fact that they keep on releasing stuff. that people aren't asking for, to me, it feels like there's a deeper purpose behind that. That's where I think about the propaganda, bro. We can't get Blade. Yeah, we can't get Blade. Niggas been wanting Blade. For 20 years, bro. That's what I'm saying, bro. Niggas want a Blade, bro. Can't get Blade. That's what I'm saying. We can't get the shit that we've been asking for, bro. You want Moon Knight? Nigga, Moon Knight. And it's just like, bro, nobody fucking asked. Nobody asked. I didn't want black Captain America, nigga. I don't care. I don't care about, you know, now you want to be comic book accurate. All of a sudden I didn't ask for that, bro. Don't go there, bro. That's really what it is. That's a black cat. That's really what it is. I can't let the black cat didn't make me fall away. It kind of like pure propaganda. It does. That's what it is, bro. I'm going to keep, I'm going to keep on saying this, bro. This idea of just trying to put a black person in a role that isn't specifically written for a black person, bro. It's not enough for me. And I could tell. Because it kind of felt like, I know people are like, well, in the comic, he becomes eventually. Yes, nigga, we know. But that's not the point. The point is, it felt like they went into the climate they were in and it was like, oh, let's make a black captain. Exactly. Let's capitalize off the BLM and all this stuff. Let's capitalize off of this. Exactly. And that's where it felt sick. Especially when niggas talk about in the comics, like, nigga, Marvel's been around for fucking 70-something years. There's a lot of comics talking about, they went a lot of different directions with Captain America. Yeah, it wasn't like it just, like, It was Captain America and then, you know, fucking Falcon. Like, that was the only other option. Nigga, they've been, bro, there's so many different variations of how they could go and approach the story. So any way that they do approach it is political. Like you said, they did it for the climate to try to pander to niggas. Fresh off of Wakanda. They want to pander to niggas. And that's why it's like, you could do it the right way. Like you said, why can't you just give us Blade? Give us Luke Cage. Luke Cage was rocking. Bro, we love, bro, had him in Harlem. But again, when you do that, though, you're forcing the character to have to deal with real issues. It's a lot easier to make everything happen in space because you don't have to deal with real political issues, bro. You can mask a lot of the propaganda because it's like, hey, look, it's happening to aliens. Or like we talked about last week, bro, when we talked about Avatar was representing Native Americans. You know, you're able to talk about those things without necessarily. Yeah. Oh, no, it's it's Avatar. Oh, no. Yeah. and it's like no nigga like again let's just keep it real let's stop all the symbolism and let's just make a movie about native americans then bro let's stop all the avatars and let bro let's let's just give us what people really want to see they don't want to do that yeah that's where it gets nasty because again it's political bro because i gotta add something to it it gets nasty well it's like here's here's a movie about aliens and here's a movie about cowboys and there's aliens cowboys aliens And a sprinkle of Native Americans. It's like, oh, you motherfuckers. Because again, dude, when you do that type of stuff, bro, when you center a movie and you make the protagonist, bro, you make them a person of color, bro. If you want to be historically accurate, a lot of the times, and it means that white folks are going to have to be portrayed as the villain, bro. And that's, again, that's where a white audience, bro, they're not going to be able to accept that. You know what I mean? I've heard podcasts where they talked about white viewership. They don't want to make black women the lead role because a lot of white viewership has a hard time identifying with a black woman. They can't relate. Yeah, they feel like they can't relate. You know what I mean? And again, when you center movies around other people that aren't white men, Again, a lot of the white audience feels like, well, I can't relate, so I'm not going to watch. And I feel like, again, as artists, as people who make these things, bro, you really have to sit with yourself and say, do I want to be able to sell to everybody and have my art diluted? Or do I want to make authentic art that tells a real story? And you know what? Some folks might not like it. You know what I mean? That's how I gotta be sometimes. And I think that's really what it is, too, is we need to... I'm sick and tired of Hollywood trying to make art and movies and entertainment. That's only palatable for white people. They do it on purpose, bro. And it sucks. They do do it on purpose. And that's why all the shit that's out now fucking blows, bro. Yeah, because it's all propaganda. It fucking blows. They're trying to get a message across, which is not bad. Obviously, it's not the new. It's always been like a thing in movies. But when you pander, it's like, oh, Lord. It fucking blows, bro. It's like, here we go again. Why couldn't you just give us original character? But I was happy people would fuck with sinners, though, because... Sinners didn't pander. Again, they had to be historically accurate, bro. Yeah, and that's why I was happy. That's why I was kind of surprised from the reception it got. But I was happy seeing people on the line on the internet accept it. Like, nah, man. KKK was the enemy, bro. It was real. And think about that, bro. I feel like Sinners 2, it was easier... Or not even, I'll reframe it like this. Sinners was able to work too because they didn't necessarily, they didn't take the easy route like we talked about in the movie. They could have just made the white folks or the clan. The vampires. The vampires. Would have been super easy. You know, and it could have been, then it could have been very racially divisive. You wouldn't have cared if they died. You feel me? Yeah. And like I said, bro, that took thought, bro. You know what I mean? And again, when I see this shit come from like these other studios where I could tell they're not putting any thought or creativity into it. Again, I'll never, bro. I'm... always, or not always, but I'm going to be a hater of Marvel for a long time, bro, because I'm not going to be able to get over Black Panther 2, bro. That's the biggest propaganda I've ever seen in my life, bro. Bro, I'm never going to be able to forgive him for that, bro. I don't care. I don't care. So why does the story have to be Black vs. Brown? Because Chadwick died. And that's the problem, though. This is the one time, too, where, again, nobody asked for the... What are they, the Namekians? No, they're not Namekians. The motherfuckers from Atlantis and shit, bro. Nobody asked to make them Mexicans, bro. And that was the one time where it's like, bro, again, they should have stayed white. They should have stayed white. And all it did, bro, making somebody a different color when the role was specifically designed for a white person, bro, it just takes away value from the film. And again, it takes away any type of message that you're really trying to say. Well, no, I think the message was trying to be like, they're not really the villain because, you know, he was confused because technically the French came on his lane. But then he thought it was the Wakandans, remember? So he responded. And I think when people do change the color of that, I think they try to make you sympathize with the villain. I think that's what they're... It's propaganda, bro. Yeah, it is propaganda, but I think it's what they do. I think they're on purpose to make you... Yeah, it's cool. It is cool, obviously. I want everyone to have their heroes and be represented, but bro, go watch Blue Beetle. Go watch an authentic... That's how I feel about black superheroes, but I don't want you guys to change the color of someone. Just give me an authentic person. Not a dead ass, man. Don't just change the color for the story. I mean, you can do it, but it's not always going to work.
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SPEAKER_02:bro. I'll get you right. You're going to get me right, bro. I know I'm a chubby dad right now. You're going to get me right, bro. No more dad, bro. I carry a light heavyweight. Yeah, bro. No more dad, bro. No more heavyweight, bro. We're going to light heavyweight, bro. We're going down. We're going down. Yeah, baby. We're coming down. 215. We're going down. Yeah. Quick hits. NBA. It looks like Holly's injured. Quad injury. I know everyone's scared. Don't come back. Might be like KD. Might fucking tear his Achilles. Thunder's up 3-2. You think you should just call it over? Let Thunder win the chip? Nah, it's a closeout game, bro. Yeah, come and play it? Leave it all on the line, bro. Fuck it? Yeah, fuck it. Fuck it. Leave it all on the line, bro. Closeout game. Um... I mean, I felt like we talked, I literally called it out on the last pod, bro, of like, nigga, everybody's one injury away. And you called it on how it played, too. It's funny how the pod ended, the Pacers won that night. And then the next game, Thunder, you kind of called it how it was going to play out. It's kind of funny. So it's just, like I said, bro, everybody's always one injury away from, you know, being the champs. You know what I mean? Like, bro, Pacers put up a good fight, but if Halle can't come back, you know, they're donezo. Yeah, by the time you guys listen to this, Thunder's probably champion realistically. They're donezo. Yeah, so that's kind of half the sports. It's cool, man. Honestly, bro, I'm excited for basketball to be over. Some big moves being made already in the NBA, bro. I saw Desmond Bain got traded, man. I saw Giannis talking about leaving. KD's talking about leaving. KD was really who I wanted to tap in on. Where do you think he's going to go? I don't know, bro. And the thing is, bro, I feel like wherever he does go, bro, I can't see KD adding... I can't see him making them contenders, bro. Damn, so you feel about KD now? To me, KD doesn't contribute to winning basketball. He can, though. He could contribute to scoring. I think he could score the rock. Winning basketball? Yeah, he hoped. I think without the Warriors, KD, they don't get those two rings without KD. I think LeBron whoops their ass. Again, I think the Warriors still are winning rings without KD, though. I think the Warriors might have three. Because think about it, they got two without KD. One. They got two without him. Oh, yeah, you're right. The one later. That's what I'm saying. They got two without him. I think they could have snuck in a third. Nah, nah, I can't lie. If they would have never got him. Because in my mind, LeBron goes and wins three in a row. Nah, because honestly, when I see the Warriors, bro, they make good front office moves, bro. Nah, they're a good team. I just think that Cavs team was built to match the Warriors. I don't think so. Because like I said, too, even with the Cavs team, bro, everybody's always one injury away. Cavs team could have been LeBron could have been peak of his powers. Niggas could have been, you know, could have been another K-Love shoulder injury. Kyrie ankle injury. Again, like I said, everybody's always one injury away from LeBron having to put up some historic numbers again. That was a good team, though, bro. That was a good team. No, it's true, though. Yeah, that's fair. I'm saying, like, I don't think... Did KD contribute a lot to making it easier for the Warriors to win? Fuck yeah. I think the Warriors still could have won without KD, bro. They showed me twice already that they could do it without KD. First it was Harrison Barnes. Yeah, with Harrison Barnes, nigga. With Harrison Barnes and Iggy, bro. Yeah, what? Come on, bro. What's my boy, David Lee still? Come on, bro. Did they have Zaza? Yeah, yeah, Zaza. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. I don't believe that they needed KD. And I feel the same way. Wherever KD goes, bro, it's not going to contribute to winning basketball. Bro, again, he could score points. KD is not willing to do what a leader needs to do. KD is not willing to take a backseat to a younger star. What if he does, though? I'm going to agree with you. I think if KD's the number one option, it's not going to work. It's not going to work. I think if KD's the second, third option on the team, he's on floors. I don't think so. Because I think technically in the Warriors, I mean, yeah, he was number one option looking in the Warriors. And he shouldn't have. And he shouldn't have. It's Steph Curry's team, bro. He technically was number one option in the Warriors. That's what I'm saying. I can't lie. Like, again, you could score the rock. It doesn't equal to winning basketball. It's the same thing with James Harden, bro. Well, I guess the whole point with guys like him, you got to get people who got the intangibles to kind of like boost the team. And think about that. How many times have we seen a nigga win a championship based off of that type of build? Where you got one dude, elite level scorer, and then everybody else just falls in line. Hardly ever. Hardly ever. All teams that we see are complete fucking teams, bro. They got depth. Exactly. But everybody who we see win it, they got depth and they got niggas who know their role bro who are willing to just go and play their fucking role dude because even that miami team d-way had to play a role you know what i mean that's really what helped them yeah they're and his role again it was easier for him to fall into the role because again you're the young man shacks the veteran you know three rings obviously shacks there's a different element to that but again d-way was able to use that to prove again lebron yeah that's why i do d-way i know people don't like i know we're We're kind of getting a little deeper into sports than we want to right now. But that's why I really appreciate D-Way. And that's why I hate when we see the James Harden. Because D-Way... Bro, when Shaq went to that team, D-Wade knew he had to step it up a little bit and be, like, the number one. Then when LeBron came, D-Wade knew he had to step it back a little bit. Like, all right, I know it's my team, Brian, but I know that you, number one, will win the ring. Yeah, LeBron James was the best player in the world at that time. Talk about prime. Prime LeBron James jumping out the gym. Yeah. I think it was jumping out the gym, bro. D-Wade's one of those dudes that always knew his role and never got fully appreciated. Yeah. I do feel bad. I give him the respect. That's the third best shooting guard of all time. Yeah, easy, bro. Put some respect on it, bro. He's easy three. bro better than James Harden he's cooking James Harden bro unless James Harden wins like three rings out of nowhere yeah he's not winning no hard yeah MVP's cool but again what the fuck does an MVP mean to me bro like again Russ got an MVP means you had a good season yeah and again I've seen Russ got an MVP and I see all types of slander for Russ bro and I know Russ is way better Russ has contributed way more to winning basketball than James Harden oh yeah yeah hell yeah everybody Russ has played with bro niggas talking about MVP it's always the best year when he's there Every year, as long as it's the best year. I mean, besides Brian, because people, they know how to use him. That's what I'm saying. Everyone has Russ shoot threes when he's playing with Brian. Stand in the corner. And no, I feel even like, all I hate more is that like, what they should do, Russ is doing with Luka now. Like, let Russ bring up the ball. Let him be point guard, nigga. Right. But they didn't trust it. All right, we had enough fun, dude. Let's get into it, bro. No, honestly, I want to keep it on sports a little bit, bro, but we're going to keep it political. What are we going to do? How are we going to transition? I'm going to talk about Los Doyers. Oh, yeah. I wish I would run from the smoke. That's all right. Nah, I don't want to do this for my team, bro. You don't want to do it? No, we're going to do it. We're definitely going to do it. I got the A hat on today, baby. I like the Dodgers, but man. I like all California teams. After being in Texas, bro, for so long, nigga, I'm always going to root for everybody in California. But what happened with the Dodgers, baby? Controversy right now, bro. You know it's been hot right now with ice going around, bro. It's a very sensitive climate right now, bro. I guess they had... Singer of like a Mexican heritage come up to do the national anthem at the Dodgers game, bro I don't know if she wanted to do it in Spanish Yeah, like or like the Mexican national anthem or something they wasn't having it though wasn't having it bro She did it anyways Latinos is hot right now though. They don't feel supported by the Dodgers my nigga. That's that's number one fan base yeah, you know and I feel like How you feel, bro? I feel like it ties into what we've been saying, that this is the type of, like, this is pandering. What the Dodgers have been doing this whole time is pandering. The Los Doyers, all right? And now to really try to not double down on the Latino heritage after... And support your team. Yeah, you know, again, you made a lot of money off of that. You know what I mean? And think about this. Again, these sports teams make a lot of money off of, like... What it is, it's pandering. Again, think about, you know, where we get specialty jerseys from now during like, you know, Black Pride. Yeah, or I even think, bro, even with the NBA where they do the Latin heritage where they have like the Lost Heat type or El Heat, you know, and they got all that, bro. Different colors. Again, yes, they are capitalizing off a culture right now. Yeah, baseball does it too. Yeah, and that's what it is. Bro, they're profiting off our culture, which is not a problem, but what are you giving back? what are you doing in return, bro? And this is Sean firsthand. And that's, and that's what I'm saying, bro. So we have to be very careful with, I want to use like the Hispanic community as an example right now. Why, you know, Black people, we cannot be content with taking symbols from people. You know what I mean? Because that's what the Dodgers have given them this whole time. It's strictly symbols. It's strictly symbolic. You know what I mean? In language, they're like, yeah, you know, we're pro this and that. But in practice, now we're seeing, we know, we know. And it goes back to what the NBA did or what the NFL did where they try to seem like, no, we're pro BLM, but they're trying to tell you how to be pro, how to be pro black people. Remember when jimmy butler he didn't want to put anything on his jersey to make a statement they said no that's not how you have to exactly you're not protesting the way we've defined or the within the parameters that we set on what we say is palatable for our white audience you know what i mean for you to protest yeah you know what i mean and that's that's what it's going towards bro because again if you can't do it protests aren't supposed to make people comfortable exactly bro i thought we we forget about yeah and like People, protests are supposed to fuck up your day. Yeah. They're supposed to inconvenience you. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And the thing is, again, the propaganda is so good now to where when you think about protests, we get mad at the people who are inconveniencing us. Right. Okay? But the thing is, they're not. When we reimagine these things, bro, and we shift our views, bro, we need to be mad at, you know, these corporations. Yep. These organizations, bro. Big pharma. Yeah, again, because again, they're more... The Dodgers have been more than happy historically, bro, to take the money of Mexican-Americans. They have, again, they have been more than welcoming historically to have Cholos and black folks as the front. That's their fans. That's who they cater to, bro. Think about how much money the Dodgers have made off of Crippen.
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SPEAKER_02:Think about that, bro. Think about like... Think about that, you know? And I don't even want y'all to get it confused, too. Like, I'm associating black culture with gangs and stuff like that. You know what I mean? But again, that's just one aspect of, again, think about... Bro, hip-hop. Yeah, exactly. Fucking exactly, bro. I know where you're going with this. Hip-hop, bro. Exactly, nigga. How many times have you seen the L.A. Dodger hat in the music video? Deadass. Yeah? Deadass, bro. Again, they like our support as long as we just purchase their shit and shut the fuck up. How does that make them any different than what we talked about on the last podcast? from a brand like Gucci, my nigga. It's not at this point. Yeah. And that's what's fucked up, bro, like you said. Bro, I fuck with the LA teams, bro. Yeah. Really, I fuck with Shohei a lot. So it's like Shohei going to the Dodgers. I'm tapping in. And it sucks, like you said, to see these big corporations, bro, these big teams where for most of the fans it's Hispanic, bro, and black. Like most Dodgers fans I know are Hispanic and black. Yeah. And it's like we always repping. We all got gear. Yeah. You know what I mean? Some of my fans are Hispanic, so some of their parents might be immigrants, grandma might be immigrant, someone in their family might be an immigrant. So to see the Dodgers shut the national anthem down and not say anything about the ICE protests or about the ICE deportation going on too, it is kind of sick. Like, damn, bro, not the Dodgers. Y'all supposed to be the hometown heroes. You know, because when I really think about it too, bro, I don't think...
SPEAKER_05:Nah,
SPEAKER_02:deadass, bro. And it kills me because it's like, bro, the Dodgers, bro, it is that team to where, nigga, you're wearing the Dodgers shit just for swag, bro. And that's primarily black and brown people. I don't think I've ever seen a white guy throw on a Dodgers hat and have done it and he's not been a fan of the Dodgers. Every time I've seen a white guy with a Dodgers hat on, he's a fan of baseball. He's a fan of baseball. Every time I see a nigga with a Dodgers hat on, He think that shit look hard, bro. Right. Nigga. I went Mardi Gras in Mobile, Alabama, I think 2020, dog. Right. Bro, you know how many L.A. Dodgers hats I saw? I'm like, these niggas weren't fans. They didn't like the L.A., they liked the blue. And I was like, oh, people in Alabama know, like, they really fuck with the hat just because of the logo. And I'm like, oh, people don't watch fucking... And that's what it is, bro. Because, again, I know everybody likes to say keep politics out of it. It's inherently political. It's always political, bro. You know what I mean? Again, the teams that are most popular, it's political. There's a reason why the Dodgers pop, nigga. Because black people make it cool. Because Mexican people make it cool. Come on, bro. You know what I mean? It's a reason why, bro. It's a reason why we was mad when Jerry Jones came out with that video. Because, bro, most Dallas Cowboy fans are Hispanic and black, bro. You know what I mean? So when you see the owner... kind of come on some racist shit. It's like, damn, bro, I'm Hispanic. I'm black. I'm from a different descent, you know? So it was like, it's kind of crazy when you see some of these people and some of these owners, I was like, how can you support these people? How can I still be a Clipper fan? Y'all don't fire the owner. That's what I'm saying, bro. It feels like we're getting to a point too now where even if you want to keep the politics out of it, bro, out of sports, we can't. It's hard. Yeah, it's really hard, bro. So now we have to be honest with... Okay, if politics are in sports, bro, whose politics are we allowing to be represented then? You know what I mean? And by, again, when you silence the voices of Mexican-Americans, bro, and other Latinos, bro, again, you're saying whose politics that you value and whose politics are worth, you know, being, you know? That's true. It is political, you know? And it goes back to... Not saying anything or not taking a stance is taking a stance. You know what I mean? That's what it is. It's literally just the same. Yeah, it's the same thing. And it sucks because we know these teams are owned by people of color most of the time. It's like 90% some white dude who probably don't even watch the fucking sport. But I think even deeper too, bro. When I think about... It just kills me too, bro. Because again, I just... don't understand how an organization like the dodgers can't fucking read the room right now it's easy that's what kills me even more too with the climate that's going on right now bro you can't read the fucking room because they're just playing games like nothing happened yeah because i think they still haven't said anything about like the national anthem thing yet Cause again, they're waiting to see, to see how, yeah, yeah. To see if there is going to be some, how big it's going to be. Yeah. Like, you know, and again, that's what it does though. If it's not big enough, it's almost like the Dodgers are going to keep on doing it or it's, it's letting these organizations know that, Hey, you can get away with that. Yeah. That you don't, that, that you can. not say anything during these times. You know what I mean? It's okay. Yeah, it's cool. Like, yeah, that's what's kind of fucked up. It's like, they're picky and choo-choo, like you said, because I bet when it's fucking L-Lost Dodgers night, whatever the fuck, they're going to have those, you know, special heritage food night, all that shit they do. You know? And it's like, they do it for... Japan, too. They have some special dish from Japan. So it's interesting to see, like you said, you want the support from the people, but you don't want to support the people. Because you know what it feels like, bro? It almost feels like when white people go and they take from black culture and we use the expression, they want our rhythm and not our blues. It's the same thing, bro. It's the same thing with Mexicans, bro. And then the Latino community, bro. They want everything that comes with it. and not the blues, bro, because now I even want to go in transition, too. Have you been seeing the No Kings protests that happened over the weekend, bro? Yeah, yeah, I saw that over the weekend, bro. Fuck Donald Trump. Yeah, I want to tap into it, though, again, to even when people— I'm not even going to say, like, everybody there, you know, didn't have the right intentions, but people go in there not with the right intentions, bro. Yeah, hell yeah, people do that,
SPEAKER_03:yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Again, it really felt like the people who went to the No Kings protest, they only halfway supported Latinos. You know what I mean? I seen a lot of signs. I saw a lot of white people out there. Yeah. And I felt like the signs that I seen of people making were very performative. You know what I mean? Like I seen it was like shit like, oh, you know, don't deport the Latina baddies. You know what I mean? It was a lot of joking shit. And that type of shit is not fucking funny. The only ice I like is some stupid like, you know, whatever. That type of shit is not fucking funny, bro. Because when I really think about that, all that message is saying when you're like, oh, save the Latina baddies, bro. implies that only the people who fit within a certain standard are worth help or are worth, you know, due process. You know what I mean? It shouldn't, again, there should be zero stipulations when you're making these sites, when you're making these sites to support Latinos. You know what I mean? It shouldn't be only support these types of Latin. That's what it's saying. No, that's true though. Like that's what they're saying. And then like, and to them, it's like, he, he, yeah. And it's like, nah, people are really good. Yeah. Because again, Again, too, it's only saying, yeah, we're only going to support the people who fit into the certain ideal of what we think Latino is. Because again, too, when, again, we talked about on the last pod, when we say Latino, what does average person think about? Yeah, I think about probably Mexican person. You know what I mean? So again, when you're saying, you know, Latina baddies, there's a very specific image that's coming into people's minds. They're thinking about a Selma Hayek, bro. They're thinking about, again, there's a very specific image. And those women are not representative of, you know, an entire community. It's not the reality. It's not the reality. And again, once you start putting stipulations on things and claiming, you know, we're going to specifically try to focus on a certain subgroup within the Latino community, it's harmful.
UNKNOWN:Right.
SPEAKER_02:It's harmful, bruh. And again, you take away from the real work that needs to be done, which is protests are supposed to be disruptive. It's not supposed to be fun, bro. Yeah, and I'd seen videos of people at the protests talking about, you know, we're... you know, we're here to be peaceful, you know, we don't want to, we don't want to cause any trouble or inconvenience, then what the fuck are you at the protest for? You're like, we're not telling you to go break into the stores and do that hooligan shit. Yeah, but again, you're supposed to be a little disruptive. You're supposed to fuck up traffic, bro. Yeah. You're supposed to get, you know, you're supposed to, like... Property damage, I'm going to say it like this, I don't got a problem with property damage. Nah, no property damage. I want to see, no, I want to see a little bit of, I don't care, I don't care if Bank of America gets fucking... Oh, Bank of America, but... I don't care if some of these businesses, I don't care if Target gets set on fire. Target's cool. I don't care. If someone ruined my business, it's like my house. I'll kill it. But again, that's the propaganda. They want us to think that it's a lot of mom and pop shops. But it's happening, though. There's some. I saw it in my own eyes. There's some. Niggas hit a mom-pop jewelry store. Those niggas was crying on Channel 7. There's some. Okay, but again, to me, to me, the onesies and twosies of the mom and pop shops, bro, is not going to deter me from, again, going and messing up the pockets of big business, bro, works, bro. That shit has power. Going and making people uncomfortable who have to go and work for these systems has power. So to sit here and be like, we're going to protest, but we don't really want to shake anything up. Bro, you're just having a party then. You're just having a party in the name of Latinos. That's what I'm saying. And that's what it seemed like when I was watching a lot of these videos, motherfuckers is dancing, you know, chop it up, talking about, save the Latinas, you know, and it's not serious, bro. They partying, bro. They party. And they said, we're going to say it a lot too, but niggas not talking about ice though. They forgot the whole purpose of it. They weren't talking about ICE. That's the whole point. That's what I'm saying. That's the whole point. That there's niggas out here trying to tread on our rights, bro. That's the whole point. And these niggas are still lost in the sauce. Yeah, and we need to talk about that. But like I said, ICE is able to do this because the police are supporting them. The police are enabling them to do this. But again, niggas at the protest were talking about, you know, we don't want to, you know, have to cause any inconvenience to the police, nigga. They're one in the same. ICE and the police are on the same team. I don't know how. What do you say? Them niggas is on the same team. They all work for the government. They on the same team, bruh. Niggas get confused. Like, oh, I saw some of the Trump supporters. I didn't think they were going to do this. Like, nigga, it's the government, nigga. They on the same team. I'm like, they all work for the government, dog. It's killing me, bruh. It's killing me, man. Nah, I don't want y'all niggas to go... Nah, don't get shot by one of those Korean niggas. Don't y'all break into those niggas' shops. I didn't say nothing like that. Nah, I'm just saying, I don't want to be 1992 over again, alright? Nah, nah, nah. But Target, the big business, for sure, for sure. Do y'all think it's a big business? I just don't want the LA riots over again. I don't want niggas to get shot. Niggas is already getting shot, bro. You peep the news lady who got shot with a rubber bullet, bro? You see the... On camera. And, bro, again, I'm going to keep on saying. Am I true? Again, nigga, if they're going to shoot a white lady on camera, bro, what are they going to do to us off camera, nigga? They're going to kill it, nigga, bro. Come on, bro. And it's time niggas have to start speaking out against that, bro. It's not enough just to, you know, hold signs about save the Latina baddies. Save them from who?
SPEAKER_05:Who
SPEAKER_02:are we saving them from? Let's start calling out the enemy. Let's start pointing out who our enemies are instead of having this omnipresent nigga to where it's like, we're fighting the power, nigga. Who's the power? I'll tell you who the power is. You know what I mean? I know who the power is. Some of those ICE agents. Yeah, that's the power. Some of those government officials. Yeah, those are the niggas y'all need to be fighting, bro. But instead, we like to make it seem like it's something like, mystical... Yeah, like it's George Santos or something, you know? Some random billionaire. No, nigga. This is systemic work at play, bro. And it's like, don't get me wrong. I know these billionaires influence our life. Don't get me wrong. I know the go-to niggas go to is the Rothschilds. And don't get me wrong. I know those niggas got billions of dollars. And I know they influence. But don't think the nigga snatching nigga people's up right now. You know what I mean? Those are everyday people who, after they snatch up people, they go home to their family. You know what I mean? And it's like... I know Newman's in the Army. And Newman always says... Some of those people are just doing orders, you know what I mean? And that's what they think in their head. Like, I'm just taking orders, you know? Because how many ISIS actually probably quit, you know what I mean? And say, niggas against the Constitution. It's against my rights, you know what I mean? I don't want to take a little girl home from her home. But no, they all probably went to work that day, you know what I mean? That's a job or whatever, bro. They don't want to fuck up the check. Yeah, you know what I mean? Whatever, I guess. I don't know if I respect it, but I get it. And then, no, because I feel like it's time we start having an honest talk about this, too. Like, not only is, like, ICE... and the police a job, but it's a cushy job if we're being for reals. It's not as hard of a job as people want to make it seem. These niggas is paid nice. There's a reason why they're able to get motherfuckers to go and do that shit. They're getting paid nice. They're not underpaid like a lot of other Americans, bro. Like I said, we know some people who are on the police. It's cool. They living good. They're living good. It's not like the nigga who's in Iraq. And that's why I feel bad, bro. Because it's like, bro, we got niggas in Iraq. He's like, bro, we got people. And like I said, I know it's two different jobs. But, bro, people go to war, dog. And they give niggas like 40 grand. And be like, yo, thanks for going to war. And it's like, yo. Don't get me wrong, bro. Some cop jobs, you are in the fire a lot, but that's very few. Very few. Like SWAT, like Special Force. What cops are in the fire? You know what I mean? You're at the desk. You know what I mean? You're doing paperwork. And it's like, yeah, don't get me wrong. You have those stops where you might run into the dude who might have a gun, who might kill you. It happens. Like I said, everything happens. Like I said, you might run into the cop who might shoot you for having a cell phone. Everything happens. You know what I mean? But it's like, these niggas went to war, dog. And you give them 40 grand.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And it's like, some nigga's might never shoot their gun some niggas might never get into altercation they work at the desk bro they work at the desk so it's not been their job to ever get into altercation and again six figures and it's not i gotta say bro it's not that it's just like bro we're so picky and choosy of like what's american who's american who deserves money and that's where it's like what how about we get the nigga who went to the army 100 grand yeah how about that But I was like, nah, that's a dumb job. I was like, well, how come being a dentist is not a dumb job? Niggas can do nothing all day. Right. Do some paperwork. My 16-year-old fucking needs to do paperwork. Give her some cookies and money. Like, kids, bro, kids, you know what I mean? So I do hate that we like to frame us like, yeah, bro, being a cop, it could be dangerous sometimes. Like I said, it's not... It's not that dangerous, bro. Sometimes it can be, but I'm saying most niggas never shoot their guns. Most niggas never... Again, they use the propaganda. That's what the purpose of like these like first 48 shows do. Again, they focus on it and make it seem like all these cops are working. Like every cop works in Chicago or LA or Detroit. Majority cops don't work in them places, bro. You know how many small towns exist? That's what I'm saying. You know every person in the town. Like, yeah, I'm like... Majority of the police don't work in them places. It's not Metro LA, dog, where it's 5 billion people and you got cocaine coming in. Like, no, not all cops work like that. Yeah, bro. Don't get me wrong. Even where we live, like Orange County, like, bro, it's not... Yeah, you get every now and then there's some crime and I get it twisted, but it's not. But I like to think about it like this, bro. When I see these protests, bro, when I see these protests and I see these cops out here with the riot shields and all that shit, bro, I think about it like this. That's the time when they're using the equipment. They only use those types of militarized equipment on America, bro. They're not using it to fight crime. Hang on, bro. On another note, did you see, I don't know if you saw that dude at the protest. Do you see him going to all the cops? What dude? There was some dude, he was like, Officer Sanchez, Officer Lopez. You saw that? I was like, no. I was like, bro, not your own folks. And that's what hurts, bro. Shit, like, that hurts, man. Bro, we'll keep it on the police right now, though, too. bro dude who was in minnesota oh my lord the fucking hitman smoking dudes posing as the police what do you what do you kill a minnesota yeah he killed a uh a senator a senator so he killed senator john hoffman and then two representative uh melissa hortman and their partners right oh my lord bro shot him up jesus shot him up bro it's It's feeling real 1970s out here. We getting crazy with the political violence right now, bro. I can't lie, though. For somebody who didn't see, this motherfucker is out the door like an old man bald mask. I don't know what you even describe the mask as. In a cop uniform, and he rang the doorbell, and they answered it. I think that's the one situation where you're supposed to dump the mag through the door. Bro, nah, because what the fuck, bro? That nigga looks scary. Yeah. Bro, he looks scary as shit. If I saw a nigga wearing that outside my house... I'm so scared. But we're black. Yeah, I guess you're right. We're black. Again, their white instincts kicked in where they said, oh, the police. I wonder what could be going on. But they didn't think like, why is he wearing a mask? That wasn't a thought in their head at all. Like, why is a cop wearing a mask? No, they seen the white skin and thought, okay, it's safety. Wow. How you doing tonight, officer? Boy. Our nigga instinct is, bro, I'm not opening up this door. Number one, I'm already not opening for a cop. It's nighttime, too? Bro, and he got a mask on? So that's three doozies right there, bro. I'm just going to assume that they thought the mask was his actual face. Yeah, exactly. I'm not even going to, like... It was groggy. They just woke up. I'm going to assume, yeah, I'm going to like to assume that. But honestly, bro, we're in a, like you said, we're in a climate where it's like, I don't know, this is bringing you that, like, I don't know. How do you feel about this? I know. I feel like people forget that like America needs like America revolution, bro. Like it needs kind of hot. Yeah. It's getting really spicy right now. Crazy right now. It's getting real spicy right now, bro. Um, how do you feel about it, bro? It seemed a little hot right now. It's just interesting to see, bro. It really just is because it's, I feel like both people on the right and the left are dissatisfied with with America right now, with American politics. You know what I mean? Because the gunman, bro, he was a right-winger. I saw that. You know what I mean? This was, again, right-wing extremism. I saw they tried to plant something in his car, I saw. They tried to plant some No King posters. Yeah, but no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And who's they? That's also, who's they? Oh, when I say they, I mean the CIA. Me personally. Yeah. I'm just saying because, again, we need to be more specific. I'm real 60s with it. To me, the CIA is doing all this shit and they're proving otherwise. I'm real 60s with it. I can't lie. I believe it. Yeah, like JFK, Martin Luther King, Cuba, drugs. And don't get it twisted. When you say CIA, I don't think that the gunman is CIA. But I think the CIA works through very suspicious forces. Exactly. Again, I think about it like this, bro. I was listening to this podcast, right? Yeah. And they were talking about back in the day during the Cold War, the CIA was forming a lot of shell organizations. And they were using this as a way to promote propaganda in other countries. So I don't know if you've ever heard of Radio Free Asia before. So it's a radio station that was a CIA shell company. Okay. And again, people didn't know at the time, but they thought radio free Asia was like, just like a random, like democratic radio station that was just, you know, putting out, you know, like non-biased information. It's a CIA shell company as a way to submit propaganda to these, you know, to these communist countries, you know, exactly without necessarily having to be so obvious about it. Right. So what I think about is what does that look like in the modern day? That looks like the CIA running Reddit forums. You know what I mean? It looks like the CIA making conspicuous YouTube pages. You know what I mean? Putting out certain types of information. You know what I mean? So when you say that, yeah, the CIA did it, I believe it. And I believe that those are the types of ways that they're able to go and get into your mind right there. They still do it to this day. Yeah, exactly. They got CIA agents in these... white supremacist forums. You know what I mean? Out here, you know, sowing dissent. You know what I mean? And getting people, you know, wild the fuck up. Yeah, exactly. You know, out here, rebel rousing and shit. I think even the opposite. I think even so much that I see sometimes, I feel like it's a fake. I feel like it's like an AI megabot. Deadass. Deadass. And that's even nastier, too. Here I am getting mad at a person I can't even see. Because when we think about, think about a bot, bro, and think about how does a bot get created? You know what I mean?
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Again, there's something that has to go into that. There's people behind the scenes because there's a reason why we only get right-wing bots and not left-wing bots. There's a reason why we haven't... Bro, you haven't encountered any pro-communist bots yet. There's a reason for that. You know what I mean? Even the bots and the shit that's going out there to sow disinformation, somebody's running that and controlling that. That's the CIA. Yeah, that's the CIA. That's the CIA because, again... What regular person would benefit from doing something like that? You know what I mean? Don't get me wrong. There's some lunatics out there. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. But it's ones and twosies. Yeah, and the thing is, there are lunatics out there, and the CIA gets them wild up to do the work for them. Exactly. That's the thing, yeah. Exactly. That's how you get those, like... The CIA knows they don't need to send one of their agents. They're going to work through you, nigga. Depends on if you believe or not. That's how you get some of those dudes who, like, try to kill Trump and some of those people. No, I believe. I believe. And if you don't believe, you're a fool. That's all I'm going to say right now. You're a fool, bro. You know what I mean? If you don't believe it's the CIA or the FBI. Somebody, yeah. You're a fool, bro. Because, bro, they even come out, like you said, they come out to admit to some of these things all these years later. Yeah. And it's like, no, I know that mission. That was actually real. We did that in 1963. That was a real thing. You know. So what's going to happen in 2025? Working with these drug lords in Nicaragua or Nicaragua and fucking El Salvador and shit. That was conspiracy back in the day. That was real. You know what I mean? Yeah. They was funding rebel groups. Oh. Now we know them niggas was funding rebel groups back in the day. They was giving them guns. They was giving them drugs. And now we just gotta wait till 2050. And then I'm like, yo, 2024? Nah, that was us. We did that. Oh, okay. You know? So we was right. Man, bro. Honestly, I stayed way past the amount of time I was supposed to stay. I know. You gotta go, bro. Nah, we was fighting though, bro. We still got some shit we didn't even touch on, bro. What do we still have left, bro? I feel like we tapped... We tapped in on like- It's Como. We're just looking at Andrew Como, but we'll wait for that one. I can wait, bro. Honestly, like, comment, subscribe. We appreciate y'all for tapping in. What, episode 67? Yeah, episode 67, bro. We was cooking. We got the visuals today. I know we got some more stuff to hear, bro. We working on it, bro. We working on it. Also, we're not terrorists. I know you guys might see the- To see the government might give weapons next to a terrorist group, I know it might look a little crazy. We're not that radical, but we're just patriots, bro. We're just patriots, man. We're just very passionate about... You're seeing a real patriot right here. That's it. We're just passionate, bro. What you got for him, brother, man? Bro, if you made it to the end, bro, I appreciate y'all, man. Be sure to like, subscribe, share, comment. Even if you don't do any of that, man, just tell your peoples, bro tell your friends tell your neighbors tell your barber bro just tell everybody about you know the best podcast on the internet right now especially we know for sure we the best podcast in oc i know that for a fact you know what i mean and on top of that bro it's original bro one and only the one and only bro ain't no fakes you know we got you know we got the bigger names you know trying to steal from us episode three yeah that's how bro that's how i know we popping bro what we're doing right now that's working popping bro and you know it's only because of y'all though you know what i mean like this can't I wouldn't do this if it wasn't for y'all sending me the messages that y'all do about how y'all fuck with the pod. It makes you laugh. It gets you motivated. It gets you inspired, bro. I do it for y'all, bro. Yeah, bro. Get people thinking. I like that, bro. I do it for y'all, bro. Hey, we out here on Unapologetic episode 67. Like Newman said, we appreciate y'all, man. If we make one person laugh, think. Fucking just think about something different their day. We appreciate it, bro. We out. Hope you have a good day. Work, school, day off. Whatever y'all doing, man. Keep enjoying it. Tell your people you love them, man. Have a good
SPEAKER_03:one.