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Unapodogetic
Episode 63 | "Crypto In The Hood"
This episode kicks off with congratulations to Newman on graduating Cum Laude. We then jump into the heated West Coast vs. Joey Bada$$ diss track beef, highlighting Ray Vaughn's emergence as a formidable MC. Also in the news, Snoop Dogg addresses performing at a White House party, and we delve into the latest surrounding the Diddy trial. The tragic burning of the historic Nottoway Plantation mansion sparks a deeper conversation about Black history and its future. We then shift gears for a deep dive into psychology, discussing various mental illnesses, and explore the intriguing concept of an ICE-themed show where immigrants compete for citizenship. In sports, the UFC Welterweight division is stacked with JDM's title win and Islam Makhachev's move up in weight, while the NBA Playoffs promise a new champion this year and Shedeur Sanders looking good in Camp after the controversy.
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64? Episode 64? I don't know, man. I'm losing count, bro. You've been too consistent. All I know is we're back, bro. Y'all tune in there. We on any station you look at. We on there. You know what I mean? Yeah. All streaming platforms, bro. It's 63. Episode 63. We'll come back with the boys. Yeah, we're on all platforms, man. We're on TikTok, Instagram. Y'all know the vibes. Make sure you follow us on there, man. Definitely follow us on our TikTok, on our Instagram. Please engage, you know, comment, like, share, you know. Man, send us a message, man. If you thought some shit we said on the last pod was kind of crazy or it sucked or, you know, we should talk about this, we should talk about that. Bro, send us a DM, bro. I might just do it. Oh, you funny for that one. He said, send us a DM. Hey, shout out to my lady, bro. Happy birthday, baby. We love you, man. Oh, is that it? No, we got it. What's her applause? God. God damn, it's the wrong one. Why does it always start off with those drops, bro? Happy birthday, baby. We love you. There we go. There we go. Happy birthday to my girl, man. Everyone tell my girl happy birthday, you know what I mean? Shit. We had a nice little date on a Monday. Today's not Monday, but we had a nice Monday. You know what I mean? New in the lab today. What we got today, New? This is going to be a good one, man. Bro, we're going to cook today, bro. You know, we've been cooking every pod, bro. But I feel like last pod was kind of different from the normal ones. You know, we kind of had like a technical difficulty in the middle. So there was a lot of topics we didn't get to talk about. But I feel like today we got a lot of things to tap in on, you know? Oh, man. Like, earlier, before we even started, too, Kerry, you know, showed me his list of everything, man. And it's a lot. And it wasn't even sports yet, either. I didn't even see any sports topics on there, either. Yeah. It was just straight, just entertainment, culture, music. Oh, my God. I forgot that. Sports. Yep. Shit. All right, dude. Let's get started.
SPEAKER_04:Look. All right, all right.
SPEAKER_00:I was counting up for him on a private flight I just crawled on my body like a medieval knight I was fucking up a sack on that purple spray All my bitches beneficial, even towed a pistol Even blow like a whistle, lie to officials I'll drip you down in crystals if I know you're real How you geeking out your body off a pink pill? I constant line to me and I fuck with your steel If I'm any properties, I bought them king of the hill Fuck nigga need to learn his place before we put him in it Step in a swag and I'm running shit, I might run for Senate I got a bitch up in the kitchen wearing them coochie cutters.
SPEAKER_02:It's West Coast versus Joey Badass. You know we rocking with the West Coast on this side. We got a
SPEAKER_01:little Ravine. Hey, hoey, is you stupid or you dumb? Poppin' in this thing about a 20 V1. Hey, hoey, is you finna show you done? We don't give a fuck where you from, where you from. Uh-huh, okay, what's up? Shut up. Uh-huh, okay, what's up? Shut up. Baby teeth, you ain't even got a plaque. Yes, fact check, we wanna see the numbers like a math test. Round, Joey, round, we gon' name it at your backpack. Real shit, you should act more and you should rap less. Every verse ass with that BBL. Cross West Coast, get it seasoned, now you heavy on it. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER_02:Unapologetic episode 63, man. Thanks for rocking with the boys. How you doing today, Numi Bear? Dude, I'm doing fantastic, man. You know, I feel so free. You know, just finished up school last week, bro. That's it, man. That's it for me, man. That boy graduated with honors, bro. Yup. You know what I mean? Put some respect on him, man. I'll treat him, y'all. Yeah, man. So it's a good feeling, man. I feel like I'm done for the most part. I really can't see myself going back to school, at least for not a few years, bro. Yeah, not yet. You know, I definitely got to take some time off, bro. You know, but I'm just, I'm grateful, man. It's the end of an era. Yeah. You know, it's a... It's good, though. Yeah, bro, it's... like looking back at it man it's the end of me accomplishing a goal that i set out 10 years ago you know what i mean like that's the whole reason why i joined the army you know was because i went that's crazy yeah yeah so it really feels like the end the end of a chapter bro you know this is like a part of the army side yeah that was the whole reason why i went to the military bro so i could have my school paid for bro damn you get what i mean i'm here bro yeah Not everyone reaches that point. Yeah. You know? Dude, and it's like, having gone through that, bro, and growing up and hearing people talk about, you know, just being consistent and sticking with it, bro, and just... I get it, man. I get it, bro. Cause there's so many times where I just wanted to give up, not just in school, but in the army, you know what I mean? Where I forgot about what the goal was and what, you're like, God damn it. Yeah, man. To where I was just like, dude, fuck this. I'm just going to go to jail today. I'm going to have to fight somebody, you know, I'm, I'm going to get kicked out, you know? And it's crazy, bro. It's just crazy to think, man, that like I made it through all that, bro. And it's, To me, man, I just really want to honor my past self for having to put up with all that shit, bro, you know? Yeah, it was a lot of bullshit, man. It was a lot of bullshit, man.
UNKNOWN:I'm happy I'm here, bro.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's for new, man. Episode 63, man. Look at that boy new. He made it out the Army. Made it through school, man. Nah, but going through the Army is probably a lot of bullshit. Oh, yeah. I'm about to talk about it next week during the Memorial Day podcast. Oh. Yeah, so we're going to have that, bro. Y'all get that next week on the Army pod. Yeah, yeah, bro. I got some nasty stories, bro. You know, I won't give up too many, but it gets nasty. Y'all get a little bit on the Army pod. Y'all heard them. Shit, where are we going to start? We always said we're going to start light, and we never actually started light. Let's really start light, bro. We're not lying today, bro. Let's really start light, bro. What should we ease in with today? You pick, man, because last time when I picked, I thought it was light. It wasn't. Honestly, I feel like nothing's light. Hey, then fuck it, man. Get into the lightest thing. Honestly, I want to say hip-hop for last. That's the problem. No, now we're starting. Start off hip-hop, bro. We're starting off hip-hop. We're starting off hip-hop. Y'all heard the Ray Vaughn beginning. You're right. Y'all heard the Ray Vaughn beginning. So if you guys didn't know, we have Joey Badass versus Ray Vaughn versus Daylight versus AZ Chike versus, you know, pretty much Joey versus the West Coast right now. It all kind of started with Joey Badass dropped the rulers back a few months ago and said there's too much West Coast dick licking. Whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa. I mean, it's just a play on the old J-Bar. Yeah. It's a play on the old J-Bar, but he added a little, you know, added a little flavor on it. But, yeah, you know, everyone on the West Coast took a little to that. And he made some shots like, you know, you niggas defending Kendrick. He ain't even friends with you niggas. And y'all haven't got his numbers. You know, he cracked a few jokes. So, yeah. And then he went on a freestyle with Big Sean and Absol. That was fire. You hear that one? Yeah, it was good. Red Bull freestyle, yeah. It was good. That sparked some more. At this point, as we're plotting, it's been back and forth war. I think about an hour ago, Joey Badass dropped the last Dix track. I think we're on track 10. We're on track 10 right now. Okay. I think yesterday, Ravon dropped, Daylight dropped, AZ Chike dropped, Joey dropped yesterday, then Joey dropped today again. So those niggas is bombing. I can't lie. I like it. As a hip hop fan, I'm happy. I like it.
SPEAKER_03:I'm happy.
SPEAKER_02:I like it coming from Joey because I feel like he's been around for a while now, bro. He has a lot of respect in the game. I say he has a classic album. Yeah, for sure. I'll give him that. He has a classic album. That's kind of what they're shooting at him. They're kind of saying you ain't done nothing since. But that one album was kind of like, I got a lot of weight to it. You got a lot
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SPEAKER_02:weight. You got a lot of weight, bro. It got a lot of weight, bro. Like, if you were outside when that shit dropped, bro, it was different. It was different. You know, you got a classic, bro. That's a classic album, man. But yeah, I mean, there is some truth to that, though, too, of what has he done since. Because I do think about just the West Coast disrespect, you know, and just saying, you know, people from the West Coast, it all has, like, sounds the same. Because we do have, like, a particular cultural sound on the West, bro. For sure. what the fuck has the East Coast been doing lately with music, bro? We've been ice spice, you know, drill music. It's been true. It's been trash, bro. It has been kind of trash. I mean, New York has been trash lately, or I'm not even going to say trash, bro. They definitely have not been, like, in the top five for, like, regional sounds lately, bro. You know what I mean? I mean, now kind of people are stealing that West Side Gun sound a little bit, but... And, again, that's... That's different, too, though, because, again, when you think West Side Gun, bro, I'm thinking Buffalo. That's Buffalo, yeah. And again, bro, when I'm thinking New York, I'm thinking NYC, bro. Niggas from New York was not claiming Buffalo, too, yeah. Yeah, don't try to claim Buffalo all of a sudden, bro.
UNKNOWN:Don't claim it now, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Don't claim it now, New Yorkers. Shots of Namaste. But, yeah, but that's how I'm feeling, man. Like, just the shit they've been dropping lately, bro, has been really... It has been very true. It's been garbage, bro. You know, when you really compare it to what folks in, like, Atlanta have been doing. You know, folks... Yeah, in the Midwest, you know, Chicago, you know. All these other regions, bro, have been doing things, bro, and really tapping into, like, their distinct regional sounds and stuff like that. Yeah. And it feels like New York, man, New York, they kind of figuring it out.
SPEAKER_03:They are. Because...
SPEAKER_02:Because when I used to think about New York growing up, I would think about real lyrical type of hip hop, bro. For sure. I don't think about that no more. That's not what comes to mind when I think about New York. I'm thinking about some good drill. Yeah. I think about drill. I think about Ice Spice and all her fart lyrics. Yeah, fart. Your nigga going to eat me out. Like, all right, Ice Spice. How many times you going to say that? I get it. It's trash, bro. I need something else, too. Yeah. And you know this is no diss to, you know... Like, women rappers. Nah, we love open rappers. Don't do that. Yeah, bro, because you know, bro, Glowrilla is probably one of my favorite artists. I was swerving last night to the Gorilla. I was swerving last night. I was running red lights to the Gorilla. That's what I'm saying. That glow, bro, that shit thumps, man. I be swerving to glow. I can't even lie. Yeah, but it's just right now, I like what Joey's doing, though, because New York needs some shit to just get the wheels. I like it. I like it, bro. Get the wheels moving right now. I even think the Battle Rappers jump. I think he had a load of Lux jump in, so... I don't know. I like this for hip-hop, man. Keep it hip-hop. I know the Drake-Kendrick thing was a little more personal, and it got a little weird with the suing and this and that. So I'm happy this is kind of some real hip-hop street shit. Keep it hip-hop, bro. We're going to talk shit about each other, but it's some hip-hop shit, though. I'm better than you. Because you know I ain't got no white boys in the beef right now. Yeah, exactly. That white boy really came out of Drake. I'm assuming you're like, where'd this come from, Drake?
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Man, bro. Where the fuck did that come from, Drake? Why are you acting white now? And that's what, yeah, that's a good point, bro. This does feel just like a good old fashioned, just like East Coast, West Coast. I've been cracking some jokes. Niggas trying to say Joey at the Diddy parties. And then today Joey came back and Joey was like, um. I know that was the angle you take, but you forgot K-Dub at the same party I was at. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Joey's really like, come on. You can't take that angle, nigga. We was all at those parties. You know what I mean? So yeah, Joey came back with some shit today. Like, come on. And he's at that same party. He told me about an artist named Ray Vaughn. He started cooking at low key. I can't lie. He was like, K-Dub said, help me put him on. I was like, ah! Nah, nah. Joey was going. I can't even lie. No West Coast bias. Joey need to get some shit off today. But yeah, no, the beef, the beef's dope, man. I can't lie. Y'all can go check those songs out probably on YouTube. Yeah. Now, I feel like even just to keep it on the beef for just slightly longer. Yeah, of course. I feel like the beefs do a really good... They're really good at like... helping all of us reflect on you know just the different nuances within music and the different regions and what they have to offer us and I think like you tapped in with Kendrick and Drake you know about them beefing and stuff and I feel like again when Drake and Kendrick beef, it really caused people to start talking about, you know, West coast has a regional sound, you know, what is, what does Canada have? Yeah. You know what I mean? And I feel like since then, you know, there's been more of like this, like an appreciation that people have been showing now of like, you know, this is what the fuck we got coming out of here. You know what I mean? And, and I feel like I've been seeing that a lot more recently with the West coast specifically, you know, not, not really tied with any like, uh, Ray Vaughn or Joey badass, but just in general. Yeah. I feel like I just been seeing a lot more people just tapping into making real, real West coast sounding shit. You know what I mean? You know where it's really founded in like the, a lot of those like G funk samples, you know, those old school, like those really though it's, it's a very particular sample. You know what I mean? To really make like a West coast beat. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I feel like, yeah, we really going back to that and tapping in on that bro. And yeah, I feel like that's a very good thing for hip-hop and music, bro. Because I feel like we've been... drawn into like this more commercial type of you know how do we make music appeal to everybody and I feel like it shouldn't have to and then we gotta mimic it yeah you know what I mean yeah fuck trying to mimic it let's start getting back to having regional sound I like that bro you know so I feel like this beef and stuff like that is very important bro because again too it causes you to have to pick a side and not just try to you know we're just creating commercial art exactly like of course you're gonna enjoy the music but it's like nigga who really like who won you know what I mean who fucking won more so like So it's like, honestly, one of the Joey songs, I wasn't fucking with the... But then today, I was fucking with it. But also, today, bro, he wrote him a Tupac beat. I gotta play it, bro. I gotta play it, bro. I can't lie. Hey, honestly, man, Joey wrote him a Tupac beat today. And, oh, man, I don't know. Joey... This
SPEAKER_01:one's called Crash
SPEAKER_04:Dummy.
SPEAKER_01:We'll be right back. I can't lie. That's a five-minute track.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not playing the whole track. He kind of keeps that aggressive, like, I don't know. That nigga enters in pock mode, bro, on purpose. Bro, I love it, man. Because honestly, I think he was like, oh, y'all was fucking with the East Coast beat yesterday? Okay. Bro, I love it. You know what I mean? I'm fucking with that, bro. So now I need one of these West Coast niggas to steal like a Biggie or Nas beat and rip it. You know? Get him back. Get his ass back. Tag him back.
UNKNOWN:And that's, bro.
SPEAKER_02:This is what we need, though. Yeah, bro. Exactly. Again, bro, when you have beefs like this, bro, it really causes more nuanced discussions about music, nigga. Yeah, bro. Exactly. Like, you really got to... It caused you to have to go back and look into the past, bro.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_02:And have to really think about some shit and analyze some shit. Damn, that's how this needs to get down. Yeah. Man, because honestly, you probably got some kids out there who probably never heard that song. There's definitely some hip-hop fans out there, a little younger, probably never heard that song. Got no clue what that beat is. And that's important, bro. As much as a lot of people like to think about, oh, you know, young kids should just know. They need to have an introduction. Exactly. We were introduced, man. Yeah. You know what? That's why I keep saying, man, I like this hip-hop shit, man. I love it, man. I hope everyone's enjoying it, bro. Yup. Because then I might open the door for y'all to go check out shit that other music. Like Newman said, Joey Bada dropped a classic album like, fuck, like at this point, almost 15 years ago. That's important for the youth. Yeah, man. Go back and listen to it. That shit came out like 2013, so go listen to that. Ray Vaughan got a good album that dropped last month. Actually, I was a little late to Ray Vaughan's album. I can't lie. The beef got me into his album. Yeah. It was a good album. It's a really good album. I did play a few songs the other day. What's out on this music show? I haven't listened to any other music, though. I can't lie. Besides this beef. No, I peeped some of Ray Vaughn's albums. You did? Yeah. It's solid, bro. Yeah, he has some good tracks on there, bro. He had a lot of catchy tracks on there. Bro, yeah. I can't lie. It surprises a lot of stuff to where it's like The Hook or something. It just gets caught in your head, bro. I mean, I guess I did see him at the Isaiah Rashad show last year. He was the opener. And I liked him as the opener. Yeah. I guess I never really heard his full body of work, and he's actually a really good artist. That was my last hip-hop thing I think I had. You got any more hip-hop shit? I mean, we could keep it hip-hop, keep it West Coast. Snoop Doggy Dogg. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Snoop. Snoop was trying to defend himself, right? Yeah, let's talk about Snoop Dogg. Okay, yeah. So as many of you might have seen, Snoop was at a crypto party at the White House for Trump. He actually performed, too. Yeah, he performed there a few months ago. And this is the same guy a few years ago who said, you know, anyone that does anything for Trump's a sucker, a bitch, and all that stuff. You know, he said, yeah, he said, you know, he said all types of stuff. And, you know, fast forward, you know, Snoop, Snoop's the same thing, doing the same thing, you know. I don't know. Me personally, I think it's kind of, I don't know, it's kind of interesting. Now he's turning on his own words, but how you feel about new? Dude, Snoop's really just been getting on my nerves the past few years, bro. I'm telling you. On and off the mic. Yeah, man. It's a lot of just off the mic stuff, bro. It's a lot of off the mic stuff. Like when he was, you know, cussing out old ladies and stuff, you know, like you're on the red table crying and apologizing. Stop. No, bro. You still, you still embarrassing your wife, you know, hell of a fair still coming out years later, bro. I guess by 20 years. Yeah. And it's just like, when you look at it from that standpoint, bro, and then now it's, it's Snoop shucking and jiving for Donald Trump for some money. Yeah, man. It's really just like, this is who Snoop is. This is his character, bro. You said no, not, you said for the check, Snoop gonna do it. Yeah, and honestly, dude, it's really time, like I've been saying, bro, since we came back onto the pod. I believe what the fuck these niggas is saying in the music.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:If I really go back and I listen to Snoop Doggy Dogg, you know, and I listen to some of his old shit, bro. You're sick. The message is there. You know, Snoop's been a scumbag. Been a scumbag. Yeah, been the type of nigga to do something for some money. You know? Nah, but he's doing it for us. You didn't see his interview? Fuck no, dude. Snoop, you think Snoop's pro-black? Snoop, the same dude who's going to put black women on leashes and walk around the red carpet? come on bro and that's what I hate too I think we tapped on it on the pod about again niggas never be pro black until it's you know you get caught up in some drama and it's like yeah you know oh they just trying to take down the black man no the fuck they not bro he said he's being crypto to the hood terrible why the fuck does the hood need crypto And that's what I'm saying, bro. That's the same shit Hov tried to do during the pandemic, bro. They only want to try to provide for black folks if they can make money off of black folks, bro. Snoop has no good intentions trying to bring... He is trying to promote crypto because he has his fucking dirty, sneaky paws in crypto. Every nigga that's on him gets a cut. That's what I'm saying, bro. That's what I'm saying. If Snoop's doing crypto, I know Snoop is not smart enough to get into crypto himself. Some fucking white man with money told him to do it. Yeah, it was his partner. And that's what I'm saying, bro. So when you really think about it, bro, Snoop is an agent of white supremacy, bro. Snoop is actually out here, bro. Snoop... Snoop and niggas like him are doing crazy harm to the black community, bro. And again, we think it's cool because, again, the music's good. It's like I said on one of the older pods, bro. They're giving us poison, but because the poison tastes good, we're willing to ingest it ourselves. You know what I mean? When you really go back and listen to Doggy Style, bro, it's straight degeneracy, nigga. It's a classic album. That's a classic album. That's a classic album. That shit fucking rocks. But when you listen to the music, nigga, it's degeneracy, nigga. It's a lot of degeneracy. And when we really think about that coupled with Snoop's actions, bro, when you're willing to sell out and then simultaneously now you want to try to pro-black this, pro-black that, bro, Snoop's a fucking grifter. He's a con artist.
SPEAKER_04:Stop.
SPEAKER_02:You know what I mean? Selling us music. You know? Yeah, yeah. And then selling us. And it kills me, too, because this is the same Snoop who was trying to sell us God at one point. You know what I mean? And Rastafari. That's what I'm saying, bro. He was selling us Rasta shit. God. You know, God. Pimpism. Pimp. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. You know? Same dude. That's what I'm saying. He's a fucking grifter. This is a con man, bruh. And it's not just Snoop, though. Snoop is just the representation of what I'm talking about as a whole that's going on in hip hop. There's a lot of niggas just like Snoop who will sell niggas out for some change and then go and be like, hey, they're trying to attack the black man, though. Look what they're doing. And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, like look at what they're doing to the black man. It's like, bro, you're trying to sell crypto to the hood. Crypto to the... He's trying to sell crypto to the hood. Hey, when you put it like that, that's crazy. Come on, bro. He's trying to straight exploit niggas. And because when, bro, because it's political too. When you put it like that, that's crazy, bro. Because it's so political because when you even think about crypto too and what's going on in a more global scale, right? Yeah. Crypto is now competing with other forms of currency going on around the world. Yeah, yeah. We talked about it on one of the older pods. It's a battle, bro. Bricks right now. Bricks. It's Brazil, Russia, India. South Africa okay them motherfuckers are coming together in China okay them motherfuckers are coming together to create their own currency right the way we're trying to stop that right now is through crypto and other forms of currency like that that we control you know what I mean because we control who's able to mine crypto and all that type of shit you know that shit is solely dependent on who has the resources to be able to extract the crypto yeah you know what I mean who got the most computers and it still goes back to though it's not backed by anything Tandy Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, it's nasty fucking work. I know some of them are backed by stuff, but those aren't as popular as Bitcoin. Bitcoin's the most popular one. It's nasty fucking work. Snoop is out here doing the work of white supremacy. Bro, that's really what it is when you really look at it. Because again, Snoop is not smart enough to orchestrate the shit by himself. Snoop's a hard R. I can't stand Snoop. Snoop's a fucking dummy. Snoop's a fucking dummy. Okay? He's doing the work. He's doing the work of the white man. He's doing the work of the white man. He is. He's doing the work of the white man, bro. Snoop's definitely been suspicious. Just let Snoop be a representation. There's hella artists out there who still do things like that. How come Snoop is being a changed man, bro? Because we know, bro. We've listened to Snoop's music our whole life, nigga. I'm almost 30. I've listened to Snoop Dogg since I was born, nigga. Snoop has been the same. This is the same Snoop Dogg. But what if he changed, bro? What if he's older now? This is the same Snoop Dogg. He had grandkids. This is the same Snoop Dogg, bro. It was, what, only three years ago he was cussing out old ladies, bro. But what if he changed? Bro, because think about this, too. I'm willing to accept a 19-year-old changing, bro. Somebody who's 25 and like, damn, I did some knucklehead shit. Snoop was cussing out old ladies and he was 50. Snoop was 50 cussing out old ladies, bruh. That nigga AJ? Come on, bruh. That's who he is. That's who he is. I'm with you on this one. I can't lie. Come on, bruh. Daya, I think you're right, bro. Even... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Snoop. Yeah, it's sad. Be cautious out there, man. It's sad to see some people like that, man, go out like that, you know? Yeah, because I feel like the... What we've been talking about right now, it's two different aspects of hip-hop. I feel like when we talk about Snoop, it represents more of just that corporatization and the businesses trying to come and slither their way into fucking hip-hop and music and art. And then we talk about Joey Badass and Ray Vaughn to where there still is some of those aspects of corporate greed and shit like that. Yeah, but again, it's more reliant on regional and cultural art forms, bruh, as opposed to trying to sell us some shit That's just corporate. It just so happens that people are interested in bars because of the battle last year. So it's like, yeah, they still don't make money off this, but it's really just bros and niggas going to booths, barring up. I do appreciate that point always. It is interesting how we get to this point of hip-hop where of course you want people to make money and be able to feed their families, but at one point are you just selling us bullshit. So I'm like, yeah, that's true. Because, bro, again, too, I listen to Snoop's music, bro. I listen to his music. You sound like he got money. So I can't hear this excuse of I'm just making music to feed my family. Nigga, I seen the cars. I seen the MTV cribs, nigga. I seen the way you're living. That's what you showed me. I seen the penthouse. Yeah, that's not even me. Pocket watch. The compound. What do you call it? Yeah, the compound. He called it the compound. That nigga got a compound. That's what he called it. Talking about I got a rap to feed. He trying to make it seem like he's a regular nigga like us when he's not. He's not. Nigga, we got to do things to feed our family. Snoop's already done those things 30 years ago, and if he squandered that money, if he squandered that, that's on him, bro. I can't use, I can't hear that as an excuse, though, bro. Hey, nah, you got a point, bro. Come on, bro. You got a point. Hey, news, hey. ISO for news, bro. You got a point. Hey, honestly, we're going to keep the hip-hop more, though. Yeah, keep the hip-hop, bro. Diddy Case ongoing.
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SPEAKER_02:get fired up right now but we're just yeah we're just gonna keep it rolling bro we're gonna keep it rolling bro um the diddy case has been very gross um it's very nasty before we i mean i don't know me and him me and him don't argue a lot i'm sorry guys i know you guys like when we argue i've been i've been hearing the feedback y'all like when we disagree but that's why we need a third person on the pod bro that would be all disagree but Maybe it might feel the same way. I know it's not Cassie versus Diddy. It's Diddy versus the federal government. But the more stuff's coming out, Cassie was looking more cooperative than we thought. You know what I mean? And like I said, the woman's not on trial. It's not a Cassie case. Cassie's not on trial. Diddy's still a nasty man. What we're going to talk about is not going to neglect what Diddy did, you know? But we're probably going to shine a light on Cassie's participation, I guess, honestly, because I didn't realize how, like, she was kind of into it at one point. And I know the power, the strength, the money, the fear. I know that plays a part. We're not naive.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But... Damn, bro. I know she was like paying for like searching for the freak off sometimes. Then she FaceTimed her. It was nasty, man. It was nasty. She FaceTimed her new nigga, the old nigga. And in terms of her husband, Diddy paid for him? Did you hear about that? That nigga used to be the trainer and Diddy paid for him. That nigga paid for him to be her trainer and she left the castle with her new prince. He rescued her. He rescued her out the big bad Diddy mansion. Why you gotta say it like that? What do you mean? He rested at the big, at the big mansion, bro. Saved her, man. From hundreds of gallons of baby oil. Have you even seen the trial, bro? Bro, I've only been tapped into bits and pieces because, bro, it's dark, dude. It's dark, bro. It makes me feel uncomfortable, bro. Like, really hearing some of that shit, bro, makes me uncomfortable, dude. How do you feel about it, dude? Before we have some fun, how do you feel about it? It's dark, bro. It's dark, and I feel like, again, two things can't be true at once, too. Is Diddy a fucking freak?
SPEAKER_03:Super.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you know? Was he exploiting Cassie? Yeah. Was Cassie also willingly engaging at some points in time?
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:I think two things can be true. I think it's all true. And I feel like it goes to show like Being in Hollywood, bro, there's no, once you decide to play with that darkness, bro, there's no escape in that darkness. Yeah, you're in it. Yeah, you're in it. You're in it, bro. And that's what it sounds like. Until you get saved. Yeah, like, bro, she was being exploited, but it's hard. How do you talk about, you know, your exploitation when you're participating in the darkness? Bro, she said that became her job. Yeah. Yeah. Freak up a game, get a job. And it makes me think about, again, when I ask these questions on the earlier pods about why don't these other artists come out and speak about these things. Now we know why. It makes me think, yeah, bro, they're living in the darkness. Oh, they're scared. You know? Because I know Kid Cudi ain't got nothing to do with Diddy. Diddy going to kill that nigga. All these niggas are scared, though? Come on, bro. Yeah. Like I said, bro, I've listened to the music. I've listened to the music. Y'all not scared of niggas. I think a lot of these, I think half these dudes is soft, bro. I think music, look, he be exploiting niggas. I mean, people always said Diddy was a gangster, but I guess now we're really saying Diddy is really a gangster. He's doing gangster shit. He was blowing up niggas' cars, hanging niggas off balconies. He has niggas in fear of their... Bro, he has people scared to talk. He has people scared to talk. To this day, Kid Cudi kind of confirmed it, but he still really doesn't want to talk about it. Bro, the court has the facts right here and Kid Cudi's still like, eh, you know. That's why I'm like, are you still scared, Cudi? That nigga's in jail, bro. Yeah. So it is kind of shit, like I said. Cassie, I know I can see her being scaredful, but like Newman said, when some of these dark facts come out, like, you know, she was paying for the escorts, you know, she was helping them fly some of these people out. It became her job. Yeah, I've seen shit, too. Like, she was worried about losing Diddy, so she felt like she had to, like, go and, like... do these things as a way to keep him, you know? And that's where it's just like, damn, bro, that's what happens. You know, you play in that darkness. And like I said, I know she was a little younger. I know she's younger than Diddy, like, you know, 10, 15 years. I know Diddy's definitely exploiting her. But it just sucks to see, like, it's kind of, I don't know, it's like Stockholm or something. I don't know, what do you call that, man? Because it's like, obviously I've never been in no crazy abusive relationship or anything like that. But I guess it's crazy, like, at every turn, you kind of have an opportunity to leave, and it's like, this man puts so much fear in. And maybe you kind of did enjoy the freak off too, you know, at the moment, wherever, until it got a little too, until it got a little too crazy. You know what I mean? Talk about too is like to a certain extent, these people do enjoy the money and the fame. Yeah. To a certain extent, the money and the fame almost seems to balance out all the dark shit that they feel like they're forced to do, you know? So again, they make it sometimes. Okay. I'm not saying all the time, but sometimes they make it seem as if like they had no other choice, you know, but in, To me, I get the feeling that it's you guys enjoy the fame and the money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So it's not that you guys were like, it's like, oh, we had no other choice. It's you guys have no other choice unless you want to continue to live the lifestyles that you're having. Yeah. You know? You know, I kind of think about it, bro. It's like... It's kind of like being a wife of like a dirty politician. You know what I mean? Melania Trump, bro. I hate how they always try to frame her as like an innocent, like, oh, she's just so caught up in this bullshit. That's kind of how I feel. I mean, obviously, it's sexual with them, but I feel like it's like, you know what your husband's doing, you know what I mean? Yeah. You know, you're enjoying the vacations. You're enjoying the private jets. You're enjoying the kids going to private school. But I was like, why didn't your husband go to jail? I was like, I didn't know he was doing this. That's a good point. And then it's like, oh, you didn't know he was doing this? Yeah. you know you thought out of nowhere he's a millionaire you know what I mean you know so it's like I think that's kind of what the mindset is like a dirty politician wife is like I know this is wrong I know this is dirty but it's like I get money out of it I get fame you're living good I'm living good you know like yeah he might be abusing me a little bit but it's like I feel like that's kind of the mindset and like I said she's like 15 years younger than Diddy so who knows what the fuck he's promising her you know so it does just suck and it's like Diddy is a freaky nigga, but it's like, damn, Cassie was kind of like, look, he helping a nigga, bro. Like, she was looking at you like, I'm not trying to put this so much on her, but she was kind of his galane, bro. You know? She was kind of his galane in a way, like. So it was like, ah, man, Cassie. I know she's not on trial, and I'm not trying to make this a Cassie thing, but. But yeah, that's, I feel like they're doing that as a way to kind of just sow that doubt. Off of Diddy, yeah. Yeah, you know, and really just like. nah diddy's still goofy as fuck diddy's still goofy as of all the all the crimes but it just is interesting like you get more facts like i don't know it's weird they make it seem like diddy's just they're trying to make it seem like diddy's just a guy with a fetish and not somebody who's actively sexually exploiting yeah like and just like nah this boy sexually yeah bro he's just a dude who's into some freaky stuff he was making her go like buy prostitutes dog And then fucking, like, what was the one? One of the nastiest facts, I think, was, like, he would make the dudes cum on her, and then he would make her rub the cum on him. Come on, bro. I'm sorry. I'm telling you, this is why it's been, like, so hard for me to, like, really follow. Bro, that was the darkest thing I've ever heard in my life. It is so dark, bro. I said, nigga, what? It's so dark.
UNKNOWN:What?
SPEAKER_02:What did he do? It makes me uncomfortable, bro. I almost threw up. My cereal. And again, it still just leaves me with more questions, though. Because again, too, I know it's almost the same thing with Snoop. Or Diddy might actually be smart, though. But I'm like, I know Diddy isn't just the head of this operation or all the evil that's going on in Hollywood. No, no, I think it's just different. Here's what I think happened. I think the Diddy party, I think the freak-offs were smaller than we think. Like, I don't think, like, the sex are part of the freak-offs. I look at things, Diddy was just sex trafficking himself because nigga Loki's just like a gangster. I think Diddy's like a pimp. I look at things, Loki's like... I think Loki and Diddy were just doing prostitution, bro. Which is illegal. I look at Diddy just being a pimp. You know what I mean? Like, all these other things we're trying to make it sound like big, like, oh, he was touching Bieber, you know, execs. I don't think it was that big. but I do think this nigga was getting some, like, I do think he was probably making Bieber have sex with girl women, doing weird shit, you know what I mean? Probably making a 13-year-old have sex with a girl woman is fucking weird, you know what I mean? I think he was doing some weird shit with Bieber, like, making him do weird shit, but I don't think it was something like, I think Diddy is a weird nigga, but I don't think it was, like, this big, like... scheme no more I can't lie I think Diddy was just like on some gangster shit like nigga I got money I got power if I want 10 bitches I fly home from California I fly home from Florida right here we gonna have sex all of us I got the baby oil bitch Cassie shut up you know what I mean you gonna do this Cassie shut up bitch I control you I look at Diddy just on some like crazy like I look at him just on like some crazy money how like everything I'm saying is still illegal by the way it's still sex trafficking it's still you know whatever He's getting charged with, but I don't know. I don't think there's some like big exact thing no more. I know, I know I used to think that, but now I think, I think those niggas are doing it on their own. You know what I mean? I think, I think those niggas who were in charge of Diddy, they're just having their own sex parties, but Diddy's not, Diddy's not invited to that sex party. Cause they don't like niggas. They don't like niggas, let's be real. I saw a white sex party there. So I'm like, the more I think, I'm like, I know, I know I did want, I did think it was some like big conspiracy thing, And don't get me wrong. I do think a lot of people were at Diddy parties. But it's like Denzel said, you got to leave at a certain time, bro. Like Denzel said, you got to leave at a certain time, bro. So... I know we want to throw Hov in there and Beyonce. Who was there, bro? No. Hov was there. Jay Alec was there. I already know. Bro, your favorite rapper was there. My favorite rapper was there, bro. No, they weren't. I know. They weren't, bro. They weren't. Get comfortable with that idea, bro. I don't think so, man. I think so. I don't think those niggas like Diddy as much as we think because they know this about him. I know Jay Alec likes Diddy as much as he thinks. He said it in the music. He does love Diddy. Okay, I definitely don't think Hov likes Diddy as much as we think. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. I'll give that one's questionable. Jay-E-Lek? Jay-E-Lek's compromised. He do love Diddy. He do love Diddy. Bro, he loves Diddy, and he married a fucking billionaire, dude. He did marry a billionaire. Jay-E-Lek is probably in some dark shit. Not Jay-E-Lek, bro. I love Jay-E-Lek. You got bars, though. You got bars. That's supposed to be one of our old black leaders. That's what sucks, bro. You see, hey, everyone's a strong black leader to some glass of milk come in the picture, bro. Ah, bro. Some money and some milk. That's really what it was. I still got Malcolm X killed. Money and milk. Stop, bro. Nah, I'm playing, bro. R.I.P. the goat. R.I.P. Malcolm X. Keep it black, though. The largest plantation left in America did burn down. Did you see that?
SPEAKER_04:Yes, I did.
SPEAKER_02:How'd you feel about that, dude? I guess it was a resort. I think it was a plantation resort. How do you feel about it? Honestly, I'm always just so pissed off every time I see that type of shit is even still around, and it's not like a museum. If you're not using that shit to spread historical knowledge and make sure it's accurate, bro. Hey, back to Dr. Umar. I'm telling you, it's an act of erasure, bro. Because dude, I watched this clip today, right? And they were trying to frame it as if like, so the people who run the plantation, they frame it as if, no, the slaves were happy here. You know, they loved it here. They said, matter of fact, you know, some descendants of the enslaved actually work here at the plantation. Like still to this day? Yeah. But the thing is, the descendants of the enslaved, okay, are white people now. That's the point. That's how they go and they try to confuse you with you not knowing the history. Wait, wait, wait. They used to be black and they got mixed out? Yes, yes. That's what it is. So again, you have somebody, or think about this. It's like sinners, the 1A black. Not even that. You have somebody who's the master of the plantation goes, have sex with one of the slaves. It's rape because they can't consent. Okay, after that, okay, he... Was a white person? Yeah, that child, you know, they could either go and sell him off or they could still have him around the house doing types of jobs and shit. That's where we get the idea of house slave from. You're the house slave because, you know, you're not as... you're not as outdoorsy as the field Negroes, you know what I mean? You're a little cleaner. And then you're the master's kid on top of that. Yeah, exactly. And then again, in the future, once slavery ends, you know, they go and they have sex with a white woman, then you have somebody who's white passing. Once you're octorooned, or a bunch of room, you're white passing now. So it's not people that look like me and you that work in there. No, but they frame it like that. I thought it was niggas working there. And that's how they try to make it seem. They try to make it seem like it's just a bunch of smiley niggas eating watermelon fried chicken and working at the plantation. When in reality, it's a motherfucker who looks like... Like logic. Like logic. Or even lighter. Lighter than logic, maybe. But logic at the most. That's the blackest they'll probably look. Like Alex Caruso. Yeah. Alex, bro, that's the blackest they'll look is logic. And that's who they're talking about. Oh, the descendants. They're having a great time working. Yeah. They're having a great time. And it's like, yeah, because that's a white guy. That's what they're doing nowadays, bro. They're like, oh, we got descendants of enslaved people who work here. And it's a white boy. They got us, bro. I thought for sure it was a black guy having fun. Like showing people around. Like, yeah, my ancestors lived here. It's a white guy. You know, just imagine that. They're talking. about my ancestors, a white dude looked like Shia LaBeouf. It's Shia LaBeouf. Never met his black ancestors. Got one picture of them in the house somewhere. You look so happy. Yeah, and that's the thing. If you were probably like, oh, you know, my grandpa was black and you see a picture of their grandpa, it's probably like a Blake Griffin type, bro. Like, damn, he's black. And it's like, yeah, I can kind of see it. Where'd the black come from? Yeah. Oh, slavery. Bam. But no, that's what they're doing. Oh, so they tricked me. They got me. And they do it like this. So think about this, bro. They're not lying. That's not a lie that they told. Yeah, it's the truth. It's the truth. Yeah, it's a half truth. You know what I mean? So that's, oh man, it's just so important, bro, that we really go and we get a broad spectrum of media, bro. Because again, I wouldn't have known that unless I seen a TikTok video. No, I wouldn't have known that. I'm being honest. I seen that on TikTok or something. I never would have known that. I was like, what? What?
UNKNOWN:What?
SPEAKER_02:I never would have known that, bro. Yeah, and it's just crazy, bro, because you have two... It's interesting because you have two ways you could go about that, bro. So you have that plantation, which frames it as happy slaves, right? Then you have other plantations that are museums and work as historical sites. People get murdered at those, right? No, that's the resort one. The other ones that are historical sites, those are ones that people walk through and actually tell you what the fuck happened. It's dark, bro. They don't sugarcoat the shit, though. They show you the cabins and all the shit. It's all still there? Yeah, bro. They show you all that shit. They don't sugarcoat it. The chambers, all that? Yeah, they show you all that. The master bedroom in White's called the master bed. They show you all that. They show you that. And again, there's two routes. And again, I've never been to a plantation in my life. When you go the resorty route, bro, again, there's a level of like responsibility that you're not taking that needs to be had, bro. You know what I mean? And I feel like that's the problem with it is again, you're not taking responsibility and now you're making money off of slaves still. To this day. To this day. You're still making money off the enslaved. Because think about this, bro. The people who built that cabin, because this was one of the largest plantations in the South, I think. Yeah, I think so. The people who built that, their ancestors who worked to build up the wealth to afford that, they're not getting anything. They're not getting anything. But the white people are paying it for something. And that's what it does right there when you open up those plantations for weddings and venues like that. Pictures and stuff. Yeah, you are not properly reimbursing people for the sacrifices that their ancestors made. So we need reparations? We need reparations. Yes, but reparations... not money reparations. Like land? No, we need infrastructure reparations. So think about this, bro. Hey, nah, here we go again. Dr. Umar is right. God damn it. We need infrastructure reparations, bro, because, yes, niggas will squander some money, but do we also need money as well? Break it down. Yes, niggas do need money, but we need infrastructure. So the way they destroyed these black communities back in the day, right, they didn't just simply, like, some of them got burnt down, right? Yeah, yeah, straight up. Some of these, but in a more progressive era in the 70s and 80s, when they were destroying these black communities, they were building railroads through the communities. They was building freeways through the community. Now you got to sell it. Yes. So now you have to sell the land. Okay. And I think about this too. And I think about, I'm always promoting high speed rail on the pod. We're always talking about, you know, you know, different forms of infrastructure. I think about, I better be careful what I wish for, because if we did get it, they'd probably build it through a black or Mexican neighborhood. I didn't even think about that. That's what they do. I can't lie. So when we talk about reparations, we need reparations that are built in. You know what I mean? We need the type of reparations that, again, you need city permits to break down. Like, we need, like, a little African-American. Yeah, like, think about this, bro. A lot of, like, some black communities in the South, bro, they had, like, bridges built over them and shit, right? You can't just get rid of a bridge now. Oh, they're supposed to flood the town. Yeah, once the bridge is there, you need special, like, permits and shit like that and votes to take shit down after that. So they're staying there. You know what I mean? So it's staying there. It's staying there. It's staying there, and it can't get squandered off by one person. messing up or something or one person just, oh, they blew all their money. So we need infrastructure that's going to help black people. And how can we not have a little Afro-America? We don't. I've been thinking about that. I can't lie. It pisses me off. No, and it shouldn't be Afro- That sounds stupid. That sounds stupid. Because again, too, we have to be careful in not letting this country try to group all black groups within black Americans. I'm going to say this again. Being a black American, we're black we're both black is both a race and an ethnicity for us. Okay. So think about this. Okay. A Jamaican is black racially. Yeah. Okay. He's ethnically Jamaican. Hmm. Okay? We're black racially, but we're also black American. We can't identify as African Americans
SPEAKER_04:because,
SPEAKER_02:again, we're not from Africa. Bro, our ancestors built this country. We're not from Africa. We're not from Africa. As a matter of fact, bro, for as long as white people have been here in America, niggas have been here. But they don't tell us that. They don't tell us that. Hey, honestly, I'm mad at you. They don't tell us that. They don't tell us that. Hey, my nigga, I can't lie. You knew me. You had a point earlier. History is important. History is important, dude. I can't lie. History's important. I was trying to get a pod moment. I'm sorry, Newt. It's the most important, bro. I should let you get your shit off. That's the point. And so when you talk about reparations, bro, we need infrastructure, bro. We need the type of things that can't be burnt down, bro. You know what I mean? That can't be squandered by one person's incompetence, bro. You know what I mean? We need some shit to where it's like, nigga, you had to have a whole town vote to do this. You know what I mean? The same way you have to have a whole town vote to put up a freeway or something like that. Or to decide to build a railroad in a certain spot, bro. That's true. You know? That is true. Or even a park. Like, I recently seen this TikTok. Did you know Central Park in New York used to be like a black community? I just learned about that not too long ago. And they built a park there. I saw a little YouTube video. I first saw a clip, but I had to watch a video on it. Bro, I didn't realize how big that park was, number one. And that's the type of infrastructure we need. The type of shit to where you can't take down. Bro. And we need that primarily for black folks. How do we get that, though? Again, we need to have a... I know we need, like you said, the voices earlier. But how do we infiltrate the actual government, bro? You think it's impossible? No. First things first, bro. What is going on in Africa right now is important. What's going on? What happens in Africa right now and... African countries being successful is important to black. We talked about last week with the France and stuff. Okay. So them being successful is directly is important for us. Cause think about this. All the ethnic groups that get respect in this country have strong foundations in their home country. Okay. So when we think about, again, yes, there's some Asian hate out here. Okay. But there's not systemic levels of Asian hate. You know what I mean? There's not systemic levels of like Chinese exclusion. There is, there's some, but it's not as strong as Americans would make it if China wasn't as big of a superpower as they are. Yeah, because again, China is not going to let you just sit here and disrespect Chinese Americans. You know what I mean? Although they're Americans, they're still Chinese and they're still a reflection of us. You're not going to sit here and go and do that. And that's how it works with a lot of these other countries as well. The ethnic groups that get respect here, they're countries at home. But how does that work for us, though? So we need to make sure that Africa gets built up to where it's seen as respectable and powerful. So where, again, because what's happening right now in Burkina Faso right now, they're offering free citizenship to black Americans. You don't have to do nothing. You could go out there and get citizenship. You know what I mean? Yeah, and again, that doesn't sound appealing right now because Africa still needs to get built up. But if Africa's strong, that's scary, bro. Because again, black Americans are responsible for like trillions of dollars of wealth in
SPEAKER_03:America.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and again, and a lot of our power, and a lot of our power isn't just money it's the culture that we bring along with us which is sports music entertainment true you know what i mean that's all us bro we have the monopoly on that they can't do that shit without us you got a point bro they can't do that shit without you got a point new i know I know I was trying to be funny earlier, but I know your pro-blackness is real. I know I was being funny earlier, dude. But I'm like, nah, I know you really stand for this shit. That's why I'm like, nah, it's true, though. I think we definitely need black infrastructure, dude. I was driving the other day, I saw Little Arabia, you know, and I was like, damn. And it makes me jealous, bro. It makes me so jealous, bro. It makes me so jealous, bro. I always go and I go to, like, these, like, Korean food spots with Christina, bro, and they got, bro, it's hella just Korean-owned businesses, bro. They got banks. They got Jewelry stores, shopping centers, restaurants. I'm like, where the fuck is schools, nigga? Schools to where they go, and they're teaching Korean kids, bro, keeping their culture alive, nigga. I wish we learned some kind of African language. That's what I'm saying. It makes me so jealous that we don't have that, bro. Honestly, I don't know. i guess this is why i get frustrated and i know we're circling back to something that only half of it's gonna be on the pot but this is why i get frustrated with dr umar and just guys like him it's because i feel like they can actually i know they spread the word though i know uh history is important i know it's being funny history is important i know all this is important but i guess this is why i get mad at the like you said the rich like the ditties the the the hoves the snoops you know what i mean because it's like bro um they can come up together and help, you know? Yeah, they can. They can easily come together. That's why I do get mad when it's like, you do have some guys, you know, trying to spread the word, but it's like people who actually have the money and like the infrastructure to do it. It's like either they're struggling and jiving or it's like, yeah, they're going to help, but like they need 15%, you know? And it's like, I know we like to shit on Bron, but Bron took his own money and made a school. You know what I mean? Bron didn't wait on nobody. And I salute Bron, bro. You know, I know some people like to boo, but Bron took his own money and made that school and never looked back. So it was like, like we talked about earlier, it's the certifications, you know what I mean? The certifications. To validate it to people who are non-black, you know, people who are non- Educated black people are scary people, you know what I mean? That's a scary person. I know I'm trying to get a pod moment, but fine. We're going to reel in and be serious. Educated black people are actually a very healthy community. And I think, too, even back to, like, integration and all this, too. Again, back in the day when we think about richer black folks, they lived in black communities. They just lived on a different side of the black community. We don't do that no more. In the upper class area, but they still lived. It's still like that in the South, too, though. It's still like that in the South. Like, the richer neighborhoods, it's still more. mostly black you know like you said or at least they try to keep it black I know right now it's a different time uh it's funny funny you said I was talking about that with my dad bro uh where my grandpa house is at my dad was saying all the black folks used to live on the block though uh it's getting re-gentrified yeah like he's saying like the young white people are moving in like people who are like you know like they're uh early 30s you know what I mean they're late 20s like they're moving in with their families now and it's funny me and my dad were talking about that bro because uh I guess my dad wanted this lot, you know what I mean, this whole time, right? It was right next to my grandpa's house. It's been an empty lot my whole life, bro. It's been an empty pot of glass my whole life since I remember. My dad always told my sisters, his sisters, my aunts, like, oh, no, try to find about that lot, you know, try to find about that lot. They never did the work, you know what I mean? Then my dad went out there. Guess who lives in that lot now?
SPEAKER_04:white
SPEAKER_02:family, bro. You know what I mean? So, I know I was trying to get a pie moment earlier, but the shit Dr. Umar says is real, bro, because it's like, as black folks, bro, I wish some people were educated down there to be like, nah, but we really should get that a lot. Like, bro, like, This is our family's land. They had, you know, like we own this, bro. And it's like, it's such a, like you said, like we get re-gentrified, bro. White people come in and catch us when we're down. Somebody got to sell the house, you know what I mean? They caught us at a bad moment. And it's not even that they catch us, bro. They designed it to be bad. Yeah, they designed it for you to struggle to where, damn, one missed paycheck or something, one injury, nigga. Yeah, that house is mine. That house is mine. So it sucks when, bro, we go back and it's like, I remember being a kid, bro, in that whole neighborhood being black, you know what I mean? Everyone being black, being black. Shit, and now I'm almost 30, and I go back, and it's not, bro. It's not all black no more. So I'm like, nah, it's just real, bro. If those people knew, you know what I mean, about the game, like you said, bro, education-wise, how to move around, you know what I mean, some of those fucking snakes. Because again, too, what the white folks are doing, they're not doing anything different than what I've just been saying about building up the block. They're still taking the same black community and just building it up. Just building it up. The houses are more, and the houses are more. And it's like, bro, niggas lived here for... 60 years, man, you know what I mean? And now it's out of nowhere. It's like, oh. But it's by design, though, too, because when we talk about gentrification, that's also, it's a political thing, bro. It doesn't just happen individually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Yeah, it just so happened all 10 houses got sold. Yeah, you know, there's a politics behind that, bro, and there's a push to try to make certain areas, you know, almost just, like, terrible to live in, you know, like, inhabitable, you know, to the point where somebody will sell. Now it's like, oh, now we'll. Now you got a brand new Walmart. Yeah. yeah security room and that's what they did to a lot of these places back in the day especially new york you know when you think about like it's crazy to watch like tiktoks now and see like brooklyn's just like this gentrified yeah like two years ago three years ago yeah it was it was a little gentrified it was gentrified but it's still it's still going on yeah it's just interesting to think about like bro they're living in the areas where like niggas was rapping about selling crack and shit back in the day bro you know what i mean and they and those areas just got so run down it's crazy not putting money into it to the point where it's like white people could go in there now and they just see it as like a fixer-upper that's starbucks yeah starbucks yep now and then once they start getting some properties in there then the goal becomes how do we get the rest of these niggas not pretty much dude and i think that's why i'd be so passionate sometimes when people say stuff about like black people's like bro Words have meaning, you know what I mean? I know the stereotype of black man is lazy, bro. Black man don't do this, black man do that. So I guess I hate when just people talk about black because it's like, bro, I didn't want that stereotype to be out there because it's already out there, you know what I mean? So it's like, bro, niggas already think we're lazy. So it's like, if someone who's pro-black is like shitting on black companies, it's like, you the last leg for us, you know what I mean? You the last stand for people to look at us seriously. So they definitely gonna take black business seriously now. And I get what he was trying to do, but I think that's why I was just like, bro, they already look at us like, You know what I mean? They're already looking at us like, you know what I mean? As a nigga who, you don't got a bust cut, they look at you weird. You got tattoos. And we live in California, so it's like, as a nigga trying, you want a corporate job, they're already looking at you crazy. So you gotta come 10 minutes early, like Newman said earlier. Because we're already talking about, we're going to be late. So it do suck. It do just suck. People look at us that way. that's just natural though but like you said sometimes you gotta build black communities though yeah and so you gotta deal with that the opportunities now bro the times now to where we shouldn't have to depend on these institutions to educate us anyways right we shouldn't have it's it's it's on us now to really take control and and do the educating ourselves like dude one thing i learned from college the information is out there dog the information is out there for us like we said off mic though it's just the credentials that school yeah because you're smart already but people are expecting more and they're like oh you You got to be honest. Yeah, you got a degree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, the information's out there for everybody. I was like, without the degree, no one would still be a smart person. You know what I mean? But it's the degree. It's the truth, though. It adds a certain level of like, ooh, you know? But it's just like... Nigga's going to be like, oh, hold up. He really mean it. Like, okay. Yeah, but really, all the degree symbolizes to... Hard work. It's hard work, but I think about it like this, okay? So I think about... It's hard work. There's this one phrase that always sticks in my mind, bro. It's not an army phrase. No, no, no. So they were talking to... some NBA players right this was like an interview they were doing some NBA players and they were asking them like oh do you think like somebody from like the and one league can make it to the NBA and niggas joked it off like nah bro he was like we're professionals dog he said we play basketball in the days we don't feel like playing basketball and that is what separates anybody and whatever field that they're in from the people who aren't like subject matter experts bro you know you do things or you work on the knowledge on the days you don't feel like doing it or you go and you practice the knowledge that isn't interesting to you you know and that's all the degree symbolizes is that i was able to stay in some classes that i might not have even wanted to learn about he's cooking you know but again i stayed in it and i learned and i had that's how i worked though bro and having to actively engage with material that you don't agree with yeah and you're not interested in that's it right there that's the playing basketball in the days you don't feel like playing basketball wait what would he got you to that you know It's just discipline, bro. But again, that same level of discipline, you can apply to anything. Okay. You can have that outside of this outside of the classroom, bro. It just, again, it's the discipline though. It's the knowing that you have to read this book or you have to consume some information that doesn't sit right with you. You know what I mean? That you don't necessarily want to read or it's boring. That's true. You know what I mean? Like, bro, for example, this last class that I took, okay. I took history of psychopathology, bro. I just took that class, bro. The whole fucking semester, bro. We're supposed to be learning about, you know, the history of psychopathology is like, what is the cause of like mental illnesses and stuff like that? I mean, and what triggers it and what is considered like normal mental health? I don't ask you too much about that stuff. You study this. Yeah. So again, dude, what I've learned, the main takeaway from all that, bro, is all that shit is completely subjective, right? what do you mean nothing in psychology there is no universal truth seriously psychology no multiple things can be true at the same time you know what i mean and at the same time too could also not be true at all so for example right when we think about bro when we think about depression right so think about something as depression okay there's multiple ways to analyze what causes depression so you could say let's say there's like a biological model right somebody who's using the chemical imbalances in the brain. Okay. But let's say you believe in the sociocultural model. Okay. Then you believe depression is caused by like inadequate social relationships and stuff. So you're not getting your needs met properly by like people in your family or people that you depend on. It makes you depressed. Yeah. So it makes you depressed. Okay. And the thing is, both of those theories are correct. Okay. They're correct simultaneously, you know what I mean? People either believe one or the other. Yeah, and sometimes people try to use it like, no, only biology is the whole, like, is the thing that could universally explain everything. Okay, that makes sense. The social cultural model is the only thing that could explain everything. But that's not the truth. But it's not, but there's, bro, there's a lot of different models to explain. like one phenomenon, you know what I mean? Which would be like depression. You could have like 10 different models to explain one thing and all those models could be somewhat correct. Like they have correct information. So yeah, you can be depressed because you have certain chemical imbalances in your brain. But at the same time, maybe the food that you eat in your environment, you know, triggers those chemical imbalances in your brain. So again, both of those things are correct simultaneously. You know what I mean? So it's... Being in school, bro, I've learned to really sit with like information and stuff like that. And really you learn like. Certain things can apply, you know, and when you think that something might not apply, it might still apply too. You just have to kind of twist your mind around. So I'm going to take it back to my last class history of psychopathology. Right. So we learned about the history of like mental illness and how people suspect that it starts. Right. The only groups of people that we learned about were white folks. Okay. So again, it's correct. Maybe when they're talking about mental illnesses and stuff like that, there's certain things that, um, or, or certain Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We didn't talk about niggas once. Seriously? We didn't talk about any other race plus white people? We talk about white folks the whole time. Not Hispanic? Asian? Nope. And we talk about white folks the whole time, right? And we learn about what they used to do and how they would incarcerate people who were like deemed, you know, as who had like madness and shit like that. What they're saying is true for them. You know what I mean? But now, you can't apply the things that you learn or the history of psychopathology and say that that's universal among humans. You can't say that that's human nature. You know what I mean? It's the things, again, all it showed me Okay, so people want to talk about Newman. You're always making it about race. No, no, no, this is real shit. I just sat in a class for four months and just listened to somebody make it about race. It just wasn't about my race. You know what I mean? And that's the takeaway, though. And what it shows me is that, bro, we're dealing with some diabolical fuckers, bro. We're dealing with some diabolical people. So not once they mention a non-white person. Not once. Not once, bro. Again, so think about this, bro. We talked about for a while, one of the main things that you talk about is insane asylums, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How people were treated in insane asylums and the history behind or what would trigger certain reforms to make people want to improve the conditions of people in insane asylums. and stuff like that, right? You know why they can't talk about niggas in the same asylums? Because they didn't put niggas in the same asylums. They put you in slavery. They put you in slavery. Wait, what, a mental illness? There is no mental illness. They never studied us. Mental illness is only, again, you have to be white to have a mental illness.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, nah, nigga, hold
SPEAKER_02:up, bro. That's how it's defined. Wait, what do you mean, dog? That is how it's projected there. That is their logic back in the day, bro. So we weren't put in the same asylums? Yeah. Black people were not put in the same asylums back in the day. They weren't put in jail either. They didn't end up in asylums or jail until slavery ended. Because again, once slavery ended, then you can't just put them, you can't make them as a slave as punishment anymore. So now you need institutions as a way to lock up niggas. Black people were mentally illness? Yeah, bro, they didn't, and even when they did start putting black people in asylums, bro, they weren't treated the same, and you were put in segregated asylums. Away from white people? Yes, yes. Even, bro, you were segregated even in mental health, bro. Even the crazies were segregated, bro.
UNKNOWN:Man.
SPEAKER_02:You know what I mean? So again, when I learn about all the, or when I see the institutions now, bro, this was four months. And they didn't mention not one non-black, not white person. Bro, they didn't mention niggas once. I had to do my own research. That's insane, dog. I did my own research on the, so we were assigned a 10-page research paper that we had to type up, right? I decided, The whole time, I was just wondering, what were niggas doing during this time? You did it on black people? Yeah, that's what I did. So again, and again, too. That's why you graduated honors, nigga. Bro, I did. I did. Because I know niggas aren't writing about the shit I'm writing about, bro. So what I wrote about was this disease called drapedomania, right? And it was one of the few mental illnesses that they said black people could have. What was it? And drapedomania, they said you were crazy. They diagnosed you with drapedomania. if you were consistently trying to escape from being enslaved. What? Yes, so they deemed trying to escape slavery as a mental illness. Yes, as a mental illness. So again, bro, what it shows now, again, is people are using the labels of psychiatry, the language of psychiatry and medicine and science as a way to enact racism. That's crazy, bro. You know what I mean? They're using the words of science and the language of science as a way to discriminate. Yes, this was 1800s, bro. This was 1800s. So again, I think about this and how does that apply to modern day? Whenever people try to say that things are objective or they're neutral, they're And there's no type of bias. There's always a bias. There's a bias. There's always a bias there, bro. Somebody made it. You know what I mean? And most likely it wasn't niggas. So there's always going to be a bias there, bro. And that, bro, just to kind of wrap it up, bro. I'm being funny. It just kills me, bro, because it just shows unless... It's because I have this background, though, and already being curious in black issues. If you don't have that already just curiosity, bro, you could have sat through that whole class and not asked any questions of substance, bro. Didn't do any critical thinking of where we're niggas. Bro, see, this is why I got to ask you, all right? We keep digging deep, bro. You put me on to this, bro. We know we've been seeing, was it the American Congress was thinking about having a show for immigrants to win their citizenship?
UNKNOWN:Woo!
SPEAKER_02:to win their citizenship, right? How dystopian is that, bro? You're the main nigga who tried to tell me, and honestly, I didn't want to believe you, bro. You told me this a few years ago. Honestly, Newt told me about two years ago that America was going to come like a dystopia, and I looked at him dead in the eyes like, no. I said, no, it's not, bro. You tripping, bro. It's America, bro. I said, you tripping, bro. We live good. He said, do you? And, bro, here we are, dog. Am I really about to watch niggas fight for citizenship on TV? At that point, am I any better than the people I'm talking about on this mic? It's Hunger Games type of shit, bro. I'm no better than the people I'm talking about, bro. I'm no better. I'm just as bad now. So honestly, man, Newman was 100% right. Newman said this in a pod two years ago, bro. America's in a sick place. I don't want to believe him. Bro, Hunger Games type of shit, dude. I don't want to believe you, bro. I didn't, dog. I didn't want to believe you, bro. nigga two years later we're straight in it okay so some background right bro there's there's talks of creating a tv show about that's some real shit too about ice okay and pretty much making immigrants compete for for citizenship or a winner gets citizenship that's crazy and it's just dude okay What it made me think about right now, I know we talked about it on one. I think we talked about on one of the past episodes that the rise in reality TV is due to these companies trying to be super profitable and they don't want to have to pay people. Yep. So there's been a push. Yeah. So there's been a very big push.$20 check. Yeah. For reality TV. Yeah. Cause it's a one-time payment. You can give somebody 20 bands. Yeah. And a motherfucker, bro, the studio done made$200 billion. Aaron, the plumber. Yeah. Aaron, the plumber, bro. Every episode. Aaron, the plumber. So I think about this on an even nastier level, bro, that again, bro, they're using free labor from these immigrants via entertainment. That's labor at that point now, too. Entertainment now, you know, for citizenship, bro. We're watching people get exploited. In front of our faces, bro. Yeah, we're watching people get exploited. It's the same way when I talked about 60 Days In on the last pod, bro, when I watched those prison shows. They just couldn't afford bail. Yeah, we're watching people get exploited, bro, and they don't get paid any money. I didn't know that about that, bro. I thought those were real people in there. Like real people who are actually committing crimes. I know some people are honestly not even guilty. Some of them are just waiting sentencing, bro. Some of them are just waiting to see a judge. I'm like, damn, bro. That's embarrassing. Honestly, I feel bad. I'm like, we consume that shit. Yeah, and we watch it for entertainment, bro. And I'm like, damn, I can't wait for the next season. I hope they don't catch on to these niggas. I think that's why I say that type of entertainment is just not the same. It's not the same. Think about What that does to desensitize in us, bro. Yeah. You know? Prison's a joke to us. It's a joke. We make jokes about it. Don't drop the soap, nigga. When in reality, that's a crazy thing to say to somebody. Bro, I can't even imagine, dog. That's a crazy thing to say. My manhood being taken. Yeah, that's a crazy thing to say. Because some niggas really had to go to jail. Yeah. And they really had to deal with that. And again, it's that idea, too, that we know that that's what happens in there. And we're cool with it. Because they deserve it. They committed a crime. They committed a crime. Yeah, we lie to ourselves and we say that people deserve it. You know what I mean? They don't, bro. But like I said, like I just said, what I learned in school, bro, if the idea of mental illness is subjective, so is the idea of being a criminal. You can always shift or reframe what being a criminal means. I literally, bro, what they always say, he was crazy. He didn't mean it. He didn't mean to shoot those people up. Come on, dude. He was mentally ill. So he's mentally ill. He didn't mean to rob a store. Yeah. You can always reframe it, dude. And that's the thing, too. And even beyond that, bro, a lot of them people in jail, bro, they're only criminals because the way we frame it is, oh, we see it as crime. You know what I mean? We see people using drugs as crime. That's not crime. That's not crime. They're doing drugs. I would want to do drugs, too, if I didn't have a place to live. Nigga, think about how warm alcohol keeps you. Of course I'm drinking when I'm living on the street. This nigga's crazy, dawg. Of course I'm drinking. Nigga, I'm trying to get toasty. You right, though. Are you kidding me? Nigga, I need a little heroin. Yeah, and dude, that's one of the things I learned in one of my psych classes, too, that there's, like, when you do certain studies, bro, it's almost sometimes you can't draw certain conclusions to things, bro. So I'm specifically thinking about this idea of, like, we associate being... Or we think like, oh, this person's homeless because they do drugs. You know what I mean? A lot of people end up doing drugs after they become homeless. Yeah, you know what I mean? A lot of people don't become homeless because they were drunk. And it's funny, too. I feel like as Americans, we all just envision the dude on the street just dirty, but it's like, bro, people live in their cars that are homeless. They have full jobs. And it's like, bro, maybe talk to some people, bro. You realize all homeless look the same. You know what I mean? And it's like, dude live in his car, but got a full-time job at the grocery store. Just can't afford rent. that dude's home yeah bro he's homeless you know i mean he got a full-time job but it's like it's not the same as a dude because oh he's and it's like what if that dude go down a bad path and i was like he might lose his car you know i mean he might lose his job you know i mean now he's doing drugs now i was like that's what got him there because like no one ever got the proper help bro that's what i'm saying so i'm with you bro and a lot of that bro a lot of that shit really stems from childhood too like here's a fun fact also bro do you know that most people in jail i want to say like 70 percent of like prisoners, bro, were in the foster care system at some point. Seriously? Yes, bro. And we know how bad that is. Yeah, exactly, bro. So when we start reframing these things as like, bro, these aren't like criminal. These are failed people, bro. These are people that our society doesn't try to help or orchestrate things to work more in their favor, bro. That is true. I really think only like 5% of those dudes are really like you know what I mean and that's the thing and because I think about this when I think about the idea of saying like we need to get rid of the police or we need to get rid of jails everybody always thinks about the 5% of like murderers and rapists when in reality okay we could maybe they could still stay in jail but for the most part everybody else this shouldn't be a thing it's because you use drugs on me because it's like you get drug possession charges and it's like bro he's just an addict How about you send them to the house? You know, get them clean. Get them clean. Yeah, I wish we could live in a world, bro, where people feel like they need to use drugs to cope. Yeah, that too. You know? Because that's why people use drugs. They use drugs as a coping mechanism. And what are they coping from? Because the fucking world's so hard, nigga. The world's so hard, bro. And you guys are going to challenge that every moment. And if you don't think it's hard, bro, here's what I learned too, bro. America constitutes, bro, like 4% of the world population. Did you know that we're like 40% of prescription drug users?
SPEAKER_01:Seriously?
SPEAKER_02:Yes. We use majority of the world's prescription drugs, bro. That's kind of insane. Because we can't cope with how crazy things are here, bro. We just got Yes, so we just think, and again, too, our views of drugs are so skewed. And we have such good access to it. It's so weird. Again, because the way we perceive drugs is solely based off of your ability to be a worker. So we only deem something a drug if it inhibits your ability to work for the man. You know what I mean? Because think about it. Sugar and caffeine are drugs, but they don't stop you from getting to the fucking office, nigga. As a matter of fact, they don't give you that as a price. You know what I mean? But marijuana, though, you can't smoke weed at work because you don't want to chill. You know what I mean? Again, but those are both drugs, but... Again, we see one as being more harmful because it's like, oh, you're not a valuable worker. Even Coke. CEOs do Coke. You know what I mean? And he has a Coke problem, but it's cool as long as the company's running. But once the company's failing, he go to rehab. You know what I mean? He do this. It's funny. I actually seen it happen with the Ducks a few years ago. I remember the manager, the Ducks started failing. Next thing you know, he was an alcoholic. You know what I mean? So he's been an alcoholic the whole time. You know what I mean? When you're winning, it's cool, bro. When you're winning, it's cool. A five-year slump. Oh, no. he got a problem and it's like funny and it's like it's funny like that always apply to us by us i mean like brown black skin it's like oh no he a criminal bro nah he this and it's like bro little timmy you know he got health issues you know so you know he got problem and it's like it's crazy you really were in class for four months i know you gotta go soon but it's crazy you're in a class for four months and they brought up no one that was nine non-white bro the furthest they they talked about that might have been niggas the first week of class they brought up ancient egypt okay so yeah my bad they might have brought up niggas from 2000 bc and that's one week and that they we spent one week out of 16 weeks we might have talked about some niggas from egypt and the middle east that's okay
SPEAKER_03:that's it
SPEAKER_02:yeah But we didn't talk about, you know, what the fuck they was believing in Africa. Or even, bro, natives, you know. Lord forbid, we try to, you know. They erased that history already. And it's nasty. It's really annoying. Because, you know, almost how I think about it, bro, I think about that old phrase. Correct and private praise in public, you know, and I apply that to where that's how it should be for black folks. That's true, bro. Because again, the media and everybody already points out all the issues and stuff that we have. All the cons. Yeah. And that's why it's like, I know niggas are going to do certain things. I don't got to say it, though. I know that, you know, I know that. You know what I mean? But I'm not going to talk about that. There's already enough. I'm going to highlight all the pros. I'm going to do all the pros. So that's why, that's really my only gripe, to keep it real. Non-bullshit, clickbait shit. My only gripe with them was, as black people, bro, it's tough, bro. We're in a black space trying to curate. And we even see white creators and black creators don't get the same treatment. You know what I mean? So it's just, it is tough. That's all. You can't talk about it because it's like, Oh, okay. We can say that too. Like, nah, y'all can't, y'all can't say that too. That's why. But I think that's really, that's interesting too, because now that really makes me think about the importance of like, curating a digital space specifically for black people and how you'd even go about doing that it's tough but yeah i don't think you ever can i think it's just it's almost like uh twitter tiktok in the sense of like there's always going to be new jokes that happen and then they're going to get co-opted and we just got yep and do it again and again it's also like you said though earlier bro um i know it's like the bus route thing though I know it was just like a that was actual but the bus route thing for me is like an analogy of life bro as black people bro we do always like go to the hype you know what I mean and it's like not many cool I mean I don't know like I said I don't have it in front of me to be honest with you I'll be lying if I say it but like bro there's There's black fashion brands that exist out there that are cool, you know what I mean? I'm not really a fashion head like that, keep it real, but they exist, dog, you know? There's black high fashion brands. But it's like, we go to LV, we go to Gucci, and it's like, do we talk bad about the black? Because it's like, do we talk bad? And it's like, well, they're overcharging. Nigga, LV got that shit from China, and they're trying to do 5,000. So I know I was trying to be funny and get a clickbait moment, but I'm with Newman, bro. I just think as black people, bro, we can't talk bad. Honestly, we got to support business that's actually good. I'm not going to support a bad business. But it's just like... Bro, you saying that you can't. So now it's like, oh, we got to get Gucci. We got to get LV. We got to go to this. And it's like, bro, black people make up the most money. Why can't we do it ourselves? But we're programmed, bro. We got to go to white people. We're programmed. Especially when these brands make it clear that they don't even care. They don't fuck with us, bro. That's the worst part, too. They don't fuck with us, man. If Gucci were to say, like, yo, we love niggas, then it wouldn't even be a problem. But Gucci makes it clear, too, that they don't like niggas. They don't fuck with us, bro. Like I said, I don't know no black fashion brand off the top of my head. I'm not going to lie. But I know there's some out there. I see people on Twitter talk about it like, oh, I like this brand. I like that brand. The one that I think of and it just draws a lot of controversy is Denim Tears. And I don't like that either, though. I don't like the... What's wrong with that one? I don't want to see a white boy wearing cotton wreaths for fashion. Okay, okay, okay. I don't want to see it. All right, okay. That's a little... All right, that's fair. That's fair, dog. That's fair. Bro. We out of here? No, let's finish that with some sports. UFC? UFC, NBA, bro. All right, we got it. We got UFC, NBA. UFC, Sean O'Malley. I thought we were talking about this fight fucking five times already. It's upcoming. You know it's coming already. We're really going to talk about is the fucking 170 division, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:170 is crazy. JDM won. So it looks like he's going to fight Islam, I think. Yeah. Islam moved up and vacated his belt. Yeah. But then we have Usman and Buckley. oh sean bradley's still there i don't know it's a stack bro it's like like ian gary yeah where's ian gary why how do you feel about this division bro it's getting stacked good i like it it's getting stacked bro i'm scared i'm scared i can't lie make them dudes get active yeah yeah you're not lying i like it i like i like the competition um you know i know there's going to be some good fights set up in some islam wins what happens though like fuck do we do hey you got a lot of niggas to put up against them bro ain't know what i would want to see i can't lie i want to see uzman islam yeah at 170 that opens up a nasty door right there bro yeah but i'm sure dana wants islam to win too oh for sure for sure he gets he gets to praise him around as new khabib yeah um we'll fight night the other week um we had what michael more michael morrow's morales yeah i'll give a burn stop it's funny bro I thought he was black then he spoke he said well Ecuadorian what is it I think I was like oh yeah that's true that's true but honestly I was expecting him to speak English and shit I was like what the hell he's Latin American that was funny but it's sad to see Gilbert Burns go down this shit bro I think it's done it's done I think that's what two three knockouts back to back it's done for Gilbert bro tough fighter bro he's been around a long time been about 10 years man it's cool You ain't supposed to be fighting that long sometimes. Right? I don't know, man. As a fighter, bro, is that a lot of damage? It is a lot of damage. That's a lot of damage, right? It is, especially because I don't know how MMA guys train, but I know Muay Thai, we don't spar hard very often. I know boxing dudes, them motherfuckers are sparring hard all the time. They kind of go at it. Yeah, so I know that longevity for boxing, bro, it's not there as much. And then MMA, maybe they don't spar as hard either because I feel like some of those guys do. Some of those guys have been around. They last pretty long. Yeah, some of those guys have been around like 20 years. Got Glover. Some of those guys do. Yeah, I feel like if you're smart, you could really get some longevity in. Yeah, I like that. UFC, man, it's here and there. Really got to talk about the NBA. Oh, yeah. Man, Ant-Man is knocking niggas out laughing. Right, bro. Bro, what is it? It's Timberwolves versus... Thunder, that's a good matchup. How do you feel about that matchup? Bro, I love how the playoffs are looking right now, bro. It's anybody's league. It's a new champ now. Yeah, it's going to be a new champ now, bro. It's anybody's league, bro. You like that matchup? Yeah, bro, I love that matchup, bro. Ant-Man versus SGA. I'm going Wolves, bro. You think so? Yeah, I'm a fan of Ant-Man, bro. He just talks that shit. He does. Bro, he's a dog, bro. He's a dog. I don't want to say it, bro. You know who's been looking good? Rudy Gobert. Rudy Gobert. Yeah. I didn't want to say it, bro. Yeah, Riddle Bears have been looking good, too, bro. Bro, Riddle Bears have been looking good, bro. Yeah, they're really getting rid of, like, Cat, bro. Hey, Riddle Bears have been looking good, man. I didn't want to say it. That was actually the right move. I never would have thought. I guess it worked out for both teams. Yeah. It worked out well for both of them. Because Julius Randle gets to get the ISO ball off, you know. Honestly, I'm a Newman. I got Wolves, too. Probably like five, six. Wolves in six. What, Pacers, Knicks? That's Holly, the team ball. Hmm. versus the Knicks how you feel about that matchup though that's gonna be that's a rematch from last year I think that's a good one yeah honestly I'm gonna go Knicks too because I'm a big Jalen Brunson fan bro same like if I really want to see anybody winning from the East it would be Jalen Brunson I like Josh Hart a lot too I was an old Laker I like Josh Hart Jalen Brunson I really just like that Knicks squad bro yeah bro they got a lot of heart I've been a fan of them for a few years too like back when they had like Hartenstein oh yeah they got a lot of heart yeah I like the Knicks squad bro they try hard bro Yeah, they just grit like, you know, he's going to go out there and fucking ball. And then the guy fucking Thibodeau, bro. Yeah. I fuck with Thibodeau, man. He's always working his players extra hard and shit. He's an old school coach, so. Niggas in the league hate him, bro. You don't play 40 minutes. He's always voted like top 10 worst coaches, bro. It's because he's mad strict, bro. He's mad old school. So I thought you'd have a certain mindset. I kind of said earlier, like, bro, when they say you got to play basketball on days you don't play basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, with him, he's making sure. Bro, you're playing 40 minutes tonight. You're running sprints. But coach, nah. We run an eight-man rotation, 40 minutes, nigga. You know what? But he's healthy. I don't care. Cipollino's not careful. He's running it.
UNKNOWN:Man.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, we had some good shit going on. So we got, you think the Knicks-Wolves finals? I want to see Knicks-Wolves, but honestly, I could see... That would be a good, bro. That would be a crazy finals, bro. Knicks-Wolves. I could see anybody making it, though, man. Like, I could definitely see just that. That would be a crazy finals, bro. The Pacers, bro, just the way they're just on that running gun, bro. That's tough to stop. I could see that working, yeah, and just having to keep up with that, bro.
UNKNOWN:Damn.
SPEAKER_02:I do like Holly. He plays such good basketball, bro. Yeah, especially after, you know, niggas was talking about, you're not top 15, you know. Was it most overrated? Yeah, you're most overrated type of shit. Yeah, that's when he wasn't a true NBA, All-NBA player, too. Niggas was talking mad, spicy about Holly. Bro, he's a good basketball player. I don't want to hate him. Probably because he's light-skinned. It is kind of weird. We do live in a weird colorism. It's kind of funny. It's like, goddamn, we hate the light skins, but we love y'all at the same time. They're a little corny sometimes, bro. Yes, they are a little corny sometimes. They are a little corny sometimes. I feel like there's two types of light skins, bro. You get the woke conscious light skins or the corny, you know, I'm trying to play into being light skin, light skin. Facts. That's so funny. The woke conscious. Yeah, sometimes you get them light skins, bro, to where it's like. Higher learning. Yeah. Fucking new, bro. Nah, new's too smart, bro. I love debating new. You smart ass. We out of here. What's up, man? Nah, still winning. You got one? You been following with Shadur Sanders, bro? Oh, we gonna update it? We gonna update? Hey, nah, you know what's really funny on a side note? You know another reason why I pulled that shit earlier? Bro. fucking Jose say he love when we're arguing about shit oh
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SPEAKER_02:god I'm gonna keep it real I'm gonna keep it real I'm gonna keep it real I was talking to Teddy the other day and I was talking I was on Xbox I can't I'm gonna probably cut this real quick but I can't I was talking to Teddy I might keep this but I'm Teddying those niggas and they was like nah we liked when y'all was arguing I can't lie he's like he's like it was kind of like some like Stephen A. Smith and uh and uh skip shit and i was like oh i'm gonna do that on the next pot i should have warned you that's my fault
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SPEAKER_02:was fucking with it bro but you see now steven and skit were really beefing though bro like i feel like you've been seeing though how to how to qb competitions looking hey new one was 100 right bro niggas want to prove a point because he was too flashy yeah hey he was right bro I mean, I guess we knew it, but it just sucked that they had to do it. That's what it is, bro. They're going to have to break him down, make him know that he's aware of his place. Bro, I saw this. They say he's throwing Chris balls. They say he's the best one out there, honestly. I saw the head coach. He's competing for the number one job. Him and Dylan Gabriel. And I was like, wait, what? I thought he was a fifth-round talent. I was like, oh, okay. I saw the players. You saw the players? They was taking pictures with him. He was like, He's like, nah, I can't do it. I think I'll pull up the peace sign. You saw him? He didn't even want to do it. He's like, nah, I'm not trying to get blackballed no more. He got the act right. I did want to ask you about that. I wanted to ask you if you saw that clip. He got the act right. Yeah, I did. I did see it. His players are all trying to throw up. He's like, nah, I can't. I got the act right. He's like, I got the act right. It always makes me wonder how much money is enough money, though, to stop acting right. How much money is enough money for you to be like, look, I'm just going to be me. But he's a kid, bro. well yeah he was like you know he's only 20 21 so that nigga he's wondering though how much money would it take for a nigga to be like i'm cool let me go play in the cfl xfl never bro or even in the nba like at the prime never i made a hundred mil never play in europe never but we're programmed we're literally programmed to be part of the establishment i guess that's why i'll just never get it bro and that's fair that's why i got a nigga like me you give me 100 mil you'll never see me again i'm off into the sunset bro but why did you get another 100 mil I don't have that level of greed in me, bro. I don't have that level of darkness in me. But you're saying this now. No, no, no, no. Because if a nigga gave me$1,000, I'm going to be grateful for that shit, bro. That shit's going to take, I'm going to be talking about that for years. 100 mil is different. 100 mil? Actually, no, I wouldn't sell off into the sunset. You know why? Because I'm funding Dr. Umar's school. I
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SPEAKER_02:I did it. We're podcasters, dog. We're podcasters, dog. This is a 360 pod, bro. This is how you fucking pod, niggas. We're not just some fucking amateurs. All right? And shout out to the fourth year anniversary of the fucking pod, too. Shit started on May 18th, 2021. You know what I mean? Fourth year anniversary of the fucking pod.
SPEAKER_01:Ew, ew, ew. What'd he say? He said that's what I would do with the money.
SPEAKER_02:Nah, nah. That's a full pod moment right there. Oh, shit. Niggas is cooking today. Niggas is cooking. hey now you got a point though oh fuck no you killed me that way but now bro okay but what if all right what if you get the hundred million all right you fund this you fund the school you helping umar you helping the black businesses you're doing your thing but what if niggas told you in four more years we'll give you 180 million you gotta keep playing that ball keep dribbling oh no because again dudes that just means that like that's what it costs for you to just sell out 180 million? That's what selling your soul looks like. 180? Selling your soul. What about your kids' kids? 100 mil isn't enough for your kids' kids. But Nike have 280. If you're thinking about your kids' kids, bro, maybe you should start living a little more frugally, nigga. What if you have 280? Like I said, when is enough enough? Is 500 million, is that the cutoff? Maybe. I don't know. Maybe. No. No. Nigga, 100 million. Bro, once you start getting into wealth that you can't even spend in your lifetime, nigga. But we're programmed. When you have to go and try to blow$100 million, that's a lot of money, bro. It is. But at the same time, though, you're also telling someone in the middle of their prime to go play in Europe. Who watches your basketball? A lot of people. But not as much as the NBA, though. It don't matter. I thought it was about the love of the game, bro. Or is it about the flash and the shine? Hey, but what if it's about both? Can that be true? No, because at some point, bro, we see that the flash and the shine gets in the way of these players all the time. But why can't it be both, though? Why can't they love ball? Why can't it be both?
UNKNOWN:Nope.
SPEAKER_02:Like LaMelo Ball. Most niggas don't have both. Again, LaMelo Ball, come on, bro. He's always hurt, though, yeah. Come on, bro. He's always hurt. You can't have both, bro. I'm like, at the same time, you're actually someone to, like, in the middle of it, like, go to, like, a lower league, technically. How is it, bro? It's not necessarily a league. You get less money, though. You get less money. You got$100 million, bro. I know, I know, but I'm just saying. You took$100 million, and you go... Really invested, yeah. With$100 million, bro.$100 million in the Philippines, that's a billion dollars. Shit, man, you take$100 million to Nebraska, you'll be all right. If you had$100 million in the Philippines, bro, the only thing you got more money than you is Manny Pacquiao. Okay? That's what I'm saying, bro. That's what I'm saying. Like, bro, you could really go somewhere. And still hoop, nigga. This nigga's crazy, yo. You got a point, though. But again, it's about just, there's a certain level of greed. Nigga, take 100 mil Lithuania. 100 mil Lithuania? Bro, 100 mil, bro, and it's not enough. It's greedy, nigga. It's greedy. But you're in the middle of your prime, bro. What if you're still on the ball? Go ball in Lithuania then, nigga. Go set some historic numbers that are never going to get broke. Go play in the Philippines. I will put up 200 points. That shit's never getting from me. And technically, it's still part of the basketball. So you still go to the Hall of Fame, too. You could still go to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, you still go to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, that's true. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's not about basketball for these niggas, bro. Because again, too, bro, we know some people, bro, who play basketball overseas. You got a point. And they're still going to hoop. They're going to hoop. And they still hoop to this day. If they can support their family, they're going to hoop. They're going to hoop. That's enough for them. That's true. But I mean, what if... I mean, we're saying this, and I'm not having it. I don't want to, like, shit on these niggas, but I do. I do. But what if one day you came to, like, 50 million, and I know we get a new Newman? If one day I come in at$50 million, bro, I'm going to show niggas how you're supposed to act with some money. Nah, I do believe you. Because I'm not shucking and jiving. I do believe you. But what if someone said Newman? Got another$50 million for you in a few years. I don't care. With the$50 million that I have now, I'm trying to suck my dick. You done? Yes, dude. If I have$50 million, I'm not working for anybody ever again.
SPEAKER_03:That's fair.
SPEAKER_02:Nobody's telling me shit. That's why it's just so hard for me to comprehend. You're willing to work for a racist? and you're already a millionaire, you're willing to let somebody, you know, call you a nigger and do all this behind your back. And you know they are. You know Jerry Jones is. The Clippers owner. Yeah, you know he is. Even the owners were not mentioning it. Yeah, you know, and that's the sellout to me, bro. I personally, I can't sell out like that. And I can understand, though. I'm not an irrational dude. I can understand doing that and having to play the game for 10 years to where, nigga, you made a good amount of money. But now you searching. Yeah, but now it's still like, oh, you know, now I'm still trying to get these last years. Nigga, go do something else, bro. I got you. To the point where, nigga, I can't step up and I can't make a statement because I don't want to lose my contract. Nigga, you already done signed four$50 million contracts. Fuck it. And now you're scared to talk up. You're scared to speak up. That's what I'm saying right there. Shucking and jiving for the money. Yeah, that's the shucking jive right there. You can't save nothing because a nigga's paying you. Nah, I don't agree with it. But I think money comes with some stipulations always. I think that's what they're not telling us. And that's why a nigga can never give me$50 million. Because I'm stipulations, bro, out the window. You can't do it, yeah? Yeah. If you're going to give me stipulations, don't give me the$50 million. Because I'm not just going to buy cars and houses and bitches. I'm good. I'm good. I'm going to build up a black community, nigga. They're going to kill you. They're going to kill me. They're going to kill you. They're going to kill you. And that's what my mindset is. They're going to kill you, bro. If I'm not on the FBI watch list, if niggas ain't trying to kill me, I'm not dreaming big enough. You're not doing it right. I'm not doing it right. And this is why I laugh, because I'm like, I feel like a nigga like you really is like a Malcolm X type. I can't lie. I'd hope so, but I'm not. I wish I had that level of discipline. Nah, I feel like you don't got the funds either, though. Because you do be big on this shit. I can't lie. I'm like, nah. I feel like if you had a minute, you'd get it the right way. I would. The right way. Bro, I would. You would get it done the right way. You know what I mean? That's all I'll say. I don't want to shit on Bron. But Bron got it done, bro. Got teachers in there. Mostly black. I've been heard. They see it online most. That's why I like Bron. Bron is the one exception. It just niggas been a good family man his whole life. Didn't wait for nobody. You know, gave back to the community. Didn't wait. And Russ. I love Russ, too. Yeah, Bron and Russ, bro. Like you said, bro, be flashy with the donations. You know, Russ is real flashy. Yeah. Honor the gift. Be flashy with it, bro. And that's what I'm saying. It's real hard to hate on Bron, bro. It's hard. It's real hard to hate on Bron. It's super hard, bro. Because we're especially like, bro, he does a lot for black men. Yeah, I'm like, Bron. Bron just does it. But they be seeing a lot. He's giving money back to Akron every other fucking week. I can't, bro. He's from Akron. And you see he's not trying to sell these niggas Bitcoin. Exactly. Or crypto. What? building boys and girls clubs. What do we need after school when parents go to work? Boys and girls clubs. Our kids are safe. We don't want the kids on the street. Okay, Brian. That's why I fuck with Russ. He built some more in LA too. Nigga not going to try to sell you crypto though. Yeah, we need some more kids to go and feel safe. Nigga not be on the street. Nah, that's real shit, bro. Nigga, nah, Snoop's a nasty man for that. I can't lie. Okay, let me ask you this. Does no part of you understand where Snoop's coming from? Like, not even a little bit? No. That's fair. No. No part of me understands where Snoop's coming from, bro. If I tried, the more I really think about it, the more I'm just like, he just sold out, bro. And he's trying to justify it to everybody else. But you don't think black people should, like, get crypto? Do I think? No, I don't think. I don't think we should be playing the game. I don't think so either. I'll be honest. I think we need to play this game first. Yeah, bro. Get some real money. Yeah, we need to play this game first. You know, because again, crypto is one of those things where somebody is getting exploited at the expense of you having money. You know, because that's the end goal of because when I brought up mining, bro, they don't. Niggas in Africa aren't mining crypto. No, no. You know what I mean? Mining diamonds. South America aren't mining crypto. You feel me? So when we talk about that, all it's going to do is perpetuate what's already going on, which is like America and other Western cultures is trying to dominate the rest of the world using a currency that isn't real. That's not really helping us. Yeah. No, exactly. You got to be flashy with the shit. Because think about this too. I'm about to wrap it up now too. If, Like, the only reason Donald Trump was allowed to go and like, oh, we're tariffing these countries, we're going to put tariffs on them, is because they use the American dollars, currency. If they don't use American money as currency, bro, you can't, we don't have the power to, I'm going to tariff you, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that, which is why they're still trying to get everybody to use crypto. So it's like, you could get everybody to use crypto and American money, so now we have power owning two different types of money. This man new is cooking, cooking, bro. Hey, new me making that shit, bro. Hey, honestly, so if Shador gives back, I'm going to go back to Shador real quick. If Shador starts posting, like, you know, donating the money and Cleveland and stuff like that, will you feel a little better? I feel a little better. That's fair. Okay. To me, I'm always going to be on that. You always got to remember, you always got to. That Kyrie thought of mine, a nigga, just start your own league. He always, you do always say that. That's always going to be in the back. Nigga, start your own. You guys, when I see, when I see niggas, signing$50 million contracts and they not even like the best player on the squad, bro. I'm like, you guys could start your own league. Y'all could start. Niggas, niggas is starting their own league using the YMCA. With no, come on, bro. With no money. Yes. There's no money. Niggas is driving forklifts starting their own league. You was telling me it was a football 37 and you. 37 and you. Niggas, bro. Niggas got to go and fucking move pallets in the morning. And they're out here playing tackle football, bro. Starting their own league. For the love of the game. For the love of the game. You're not lying, dog. For the love of the game. They risking an ACL tear. They don't love the game, bro. These niggas don't love the game. They only love the country. Wait, wait, wait. So is that what we're down to? We're still going to watch this shit. I got to say it earlier, bro. It's all entertainment. I don't believe it. I really don't believe it. Like Newman said- I'm the opposite of Newman. Newman said he believes what these niggas saying. I don't believe what these niggas are saying, honestly. Because I just know, bro, it's not real, bro. I just know, like, some of them might believe that, bro, but not all of them are doing it for us. You know what I mean? Like, Snoop's not doing it for us. Snoop's not doing it for us, bro. So I can't believe Snoop tried to look that man down in his eyes and say he's helping the black community. You know what I mean? I just, I know it's not true. Snoop's trying to profit off the black community. You know what I mean? So I was like, yeah, Snoop might be helping, but he's only helping because he's getting money off of it. Whereas someone like Mark They're helping in the sense of like, nigga, they're only helping because nigga, the school paid them. You know what I mean? It's not like someone giving them$5 million is going to talk to you. Snoop got some money. They paid him some money to go DJ at the inauguration. And on top of that, he got some crypto, nigga. He got some Bitcoin. And I think too, dude, I think that the worst part about it all too is there's a type of like social currency that the president gets from having black people support him. And that's what that does. Wait, wait, wait. Break that down. Break that down for them real quick, real quick. All Snoop Dogg, you know, being involved with... Donald Trump and stuff, all that does is try to give legitimacy to MAGA supporters and make it seem as if black people support Donald Trump or are big supporters. You know what I mean? It's almost like they're trying to use Snoop as like the Al Sharpton type. You know what I mean? Like, you can't be racist. Al Sharpton fucking with us. We love black people. We got Snoop Doggy Dogg here, nigga. You know what I mean? You love Snoop Doggy Dogg. That's what they're saying, yes. Gin and juice. Yes, and that's the equivalent to like when the DNC was trying to do that. When they was trying to get mega. That's what they think of
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SPEAKER_02:That's what they think of us. They think that they could get a Snoop. They could get a Meg. They could get a Cardi B. That's going to do it for us. And that's it. And that's all we need. And it's not enough for me. No, I'm with you, bro. It's not enough for me. Especially Snoop Dogg. And again, somebody like Snoop, too. I know people are going to ask, we all have done bad shit in the past. And I feel like somebody like Snoop, bro, the only way to repent, bro, you have to go... and acknowledge the harm that you caused, bro. You have to go and acknowledge what you're saying about, you know, the pimp propaganda that you were pushing. That has real life consequences. He had a wife the whole time, bro. That's what I'm saying. Yes, that has real life consequences, bro. You really impacted the lives of millions of people, bro. Some people really grew up that way. Some people really became pimps because of Snoop. Yeah, think about it like this, bro. I think we talked about it on our pod before. Snoop Dogg might be the most famous rapper on earth. He might be the most recognizable rapper on earth. I mean, black. People want to say Eminem, but... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Snoop Dogg might be the most recognizable rapper on earth, bro. Easily. You get what I mean? But again, there's real life harm that he's done in his music, bro. Yeah, for sure. And there's nothing wrong with... I completely agree that it's a valid response to know he was young, he was dumb, but you have to go up and you have to say that thing, bro. And you have to say it louder than... than the 10 million records you were selling, bro. I heard the nonsense. Yeah, think about that. I heard the bullshit. When a nigga's going diamond, when a nigga's going diamond, you're going to have to spend a lot of time then, you know, talking about some positivity to undo the shit you was just talking about, bro. I honestly haven't heard a lot of positive snoop. I heard a little bit, a little Rastafarian. Yeah, you went diamond talking about pimping hoes. You know what I mean? You got to put in a lot more work now. Yep. You know, and preach a lot more positivity and a lot more knowledge. Yep. You know, before you could just be like, oh, you know. He did go Rasta. He did go church. And what does Rasta do, though? What was Rasta? He went Rasta so he could smoke more weed. Yeah, and make like a movie or some shit, I think. Come on, bro. Snoop Ryan. I think he did make a movie off of that, too. Nah, Newman's been cooking, bro. Oh, man. Happy birthday to my girl, bro. I love you. You know what I mean? Happy birthday to everyone. Whose birthday is this month? Happy birthday to all y'all. Yeah, happy birthday, Mick. I don't know whose birthday is this month. Happy birthday, Lala. Happy birthday. What's Lala's birthday? 24th. 24th. Happy birthday, Lala. Happy birthday, man. Happy birthday, everybody, bro. Thanks for tuning into the pod. Me and Newman got spicy. Yeah. Too young black man getting it, bro. Successful black man, bro. Newman's doing his thing, dog. Newman fucking graduated with honors, nigga. Nigga about to have his own business. You know what I mean? Successful black man, nigga. Even though niggas don't need school, that nigga did it the right way, you feel me? Nah, because, you know, I hate that only black people got to go to school, you know what I mean? Like I said, I was trying to be funny earlier, but whatever, whatever. I love you, New. You know that, cuz. Anyway, I'm out of here. Episode 63, New, what you got for us? Man, I love every single one of y'all, bro, who stayed this long to listen to us, man. Appreciate y'all always supporting and tapping in with the pod. If you haven't already, be sure to follow us on Instagram, TikTok. Twitter I think we still do we have a pod Twitter account I don't even be on Twitter Elon's not getting paid off so but anyways man make sure you like follow subscribe just engage with the pod man anything helps dude I'm just trying to trying to grow the pod man trying to grow it organically bro and all the support helps like we definitely been seeing you know all the comments that you guys leave for us personal messages you guys leave for us man is appreciate it man I love I love all you guys man it keeps me going and Yeah, that's it, man. You know, stay hydrated. Drink water. Stay woke. Hey, we love y'all. Like I said, happy birthday, everybody. Happy birthday, my girl. You know what I mean? Happy birthday. All the birthdays this month. And we out of here. Happy Tuesday, Monday, Wednesday.
SPEAKER_01:Y'all know what day it is.